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06/12/2005 05:29:24 PM · #1 |
I always get the message that searching threads is disabled.
Is it only available to memebrs?
If so, I really think it should be available to registered users too, as it would cut down on a lot of questions asked twice... |
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06/12/2005 05:34:35 PM · #2 |
| Google does the searching now...just click the link provided under the 'disabled' statement |
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06/12/2005 05:35:05 PM · #3 |
It use to work but it's been disabled for awhile. Click on the link on that same page for Google's Advanced Search and it will search the forums in a similar matter. Not sure what's up with the real search.
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06/12/2005 05:35:21 PM · #4 |
| The search is generally provided to everyone but is disabled now while they work on site load difficulties. |
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06/12/2005 05:40:14 PM · #5 |
| if you work it right you can find anything in the forums through google :) |
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06/12/2005 06:08:17 PM · #6 |
I have tried many times using the google search for this forum and I have one thing to say about it - IT SUCKS!
Message edited by author 2005-06-12 18:08:32.
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06/12/2005 07:21:45 PM · #7 |
Google has worked for me most of the time. But a couple of times it failed even after several tries with terms I am positive were in threads I was looking for. It's not as reliable as our own search function used to be.
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06/14/2005 12:00:14 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Alienyst:
I have tried many times using the google search for this forum and I have one thing to say about it - IT SUCKS! |
my sentiments exactly... |
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06/14/2005 12:38:57 AM · #9 |
I did a search and it works great.
linky workie
James |
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06/14/2005 09:10:00 AM · #10 |
Although google is much better is most cases (e.g. searching for the anything less than 4 chars or words in the "stopword" list), I used to use the old search to find threads that contained a specific image id. For example, try and find the thread containing image 187658 or the thread with image 21477. The old search made this a breeze.
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06/14/2005 09:26:28 AM · #11 |
This is in no way an official search, nor is it complete. I can't remove the "sponsored" ads at the top, and I don't get paid for them. All that disclaimer nonsense being said, this WILL search DPC better than google for a lot of things, including by image_id=
//www.pictureinfinity.com/search.html
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06/14/2005 09:33:09 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by mavrik:
This is in no way an official search, nor is it complete. I can't remove the "sponsored" ads at the top, and I don't get paid for them. All that disclaimer nonsense being said, this WILL search DPC better than google for a lot of things, including by image_id=
//www.pictureinfinity.com/search.html |
Looks pretty cool!
Could you send a quick note to Drew and Langdon to let them know you've set this up? That way, they'll know who to contact if it somehow puts excessive strain on the site.
Thanks!
-Terry
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06/14/2005 09:37:46 AM · #13 |
Sure, I'll drop them a note - but - wouldn't the strain be on FreeFind? I don't honestly know - I mean ... wouldn't the strain be the same as Google searching the site just like FF does?
M
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06/14/2005 09:42:32 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by mavrik:
Sure, I'll drop them a note - but - wouldn't the strain be on FreeFind? I don't honestly know - I mean ... wouldn't the strain be the same as Google searching the site just like FF does?
M |
It depends if FF sends out spiders and caches the pages or if it searches realtime.
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06/14/2005 09:44:01 AM · #15 |
Doesn't Google do both? A real live version and if you press "cached" you get the last cached page?
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06/14/2005 09:48:11 AM · #16 |
It's a live version once you've clicked the link, yeh, but it searches through it's own archives rather than live on the internet. Thats why pages sometimes take a few weeks to show up on google, because the spiders haven't got to it yet.
(Everything I say may be wrong lol)
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06/14/2005 10:17:39 AM · #17 |
You're correct Ben. And that's why a third-party search service (such as Google, MSN, A9, FreeFind or whoever) will most likely never have all of DPC indexed. Not only do the forums receive a ton of activity, but the various search engines would need to find links to every post that has ever been made on this site, which could take a long time (since such services tend to query the site relatively slowly, so as not to swamp it with requests and cause slowdowns for the real users).
For example, if you go to the index for the Individual Photograph Discussion forum, you'll see (at the top) that there are 242 pages of posts. That means that all of the search engines would need to do the equivalent of click on each thread on page 1 and store/index the results, then do the equivalent of click on "2", read/index/store all of the threads on page 2, retrieve page 3, etc... for 242 pages! Now combine that with 163 pages in "Current Challenge", 172 pages in Q&A, etc... and you'll see that it would take a long, LONG time before a particular search engine will have indexed all of the DPC forums.
Currently, the DPC forums are comprised of over 510,000 individual posts in over 39,500 different topics. Each one of those topics requires at least one query from the search engine, and if the topic is more than a single page, additional queries on top of that. Now consider the fact that the search engines also follows links to all the user profile pages (over 39,000 of those), and all of the individual image pages (over 123,000 of those) and you begin to comprehend the scale of what needs to be done to "search the site"...
I'm not saying google isn't capable of it -- just that at any one given time, there is no guarantee that google (or any search engine) has successfully followed all of the links from the various index pages to create a complete index -- especially since this site is growing continuously. Imagine google is indexing page 156 of "Individual Photograph Discussion"... by the time it comes back to page 156, it may have changed entirely, since new posts have pushed stuff that was on page 156 to page 158 now. It is kind of a never-ending battle...
Message edited by author 2005-06-14 10:28:44.
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06/14/2005 10:48:11 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by mavrik:
All that disclaimer nonsense being said, this WILL search DPC better than google for a lot of things, including by image_id= |
No cigar! |
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06/14/2005 10:54:25 AM · #19 |
hm, I tried it and it worked, but I think I got the results from when people posted links wrong, thus making them text instead of links....I'll try to do something again.
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