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06/10/2005 04:36:07 PM · #76 |
Maybe Brad will give you His votes !!LOLOriginally posted by bear_music:
Originally posted by kiwinick:
This and Bear Music's entry were my Ribbon favorites so I guess its Go Bear GO. I think that this is a warning nit to take anything for granted.
A crying shame really |
Then you're 0-for-2, Nick; I'm running 5.0017 right now... On a shot with virtually NO PP by the way; Har would be proud of me.
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06/10/2005 04:41:12 PM · #77 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
... skill and creativity are being labeled "subversive" and I think that's wrong.
Robt. |
Seems to me they've always been labelled subversive, and --certainly in my "formative years" -- we considered that a compliment : ) |
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06/10/2005 05:03:07 PM · #78 |
Originally posted by BradP:
Originally posted by bear_music:
Familial Progressive Supranuclear Palsy
Runs in my family, actually, is how I know about it... There are some signs I'm getting it, but my dad has it and he's still perking along nicely at age 90, so... |
Eh - oops!
Thought you were making a terminology joke, meaning families and palsy.
I have heard people say how retarded family members can act and thought that was the direcion you were making reference to.
Sorry Robert - was NOT making light of something real. |
No, of course not; if anyone was, it was me. Peace. I just thought I'd contradict the dictionary for ya.
Robt.
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06/10/2005 05:40:54 PM · #79 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
I'm NOT in favor of changing the "spirit of the site" [...] It seems to me that skill and creativity are being labeled "subversive" and I think that's wrong. |
So... you don't want to interfere with the spirit of the site, but you object to being called subversive when you run against the, err, spirit of the site?
The entire point of creating the advanced rules challenges was to free people up to manipulate to their hearts content. The whole point of the basic rules was to minimise the level of manipulation.
How is it a surprise if people think that actively boasting of how much work you put into manipulating within the exact words of the basic ruleset is just a teeny bit "subversive"? |
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06/10/2005 05:54:37 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by ganders:
Originally posted by bear_music:
I'm NOT in favor of changing the "spirit of the site" [...] It seems to me that skill and creativity are being labeled "subversive" and I think that's wrong. |
So... you don't want to interfere with the spirit of the site, but you object to being called subversive when you run against the, err, spirit of the site? |
That is only some people's interpretation of the "spirit of the rules." I think what Robt. (and I'm getting there) is objecting to is the apparent existence of some self-appointed "keepers of the spirit of the rules" (too much Pope coverage -- it's contagious).
That what Robt. does is against that "spirit" is your opinion, and nothing more. I personally agree with his position in virtually every respect, and I am an official spiritual arbiter. I think the main problem (in this thread, anyway) is that "people" have begun expressing their opinions as Holy Writ, and it just ain't necessarily so.
IMO, it violates no "spirit" here to use legal tools to perform legal steps to achieve a legal entry. It's legal, it's fine.
If you, personally, don't like any particular image, you can give it a vote as low as 1, and have the opportunity to state why you feel it is an unworthy photo.
Message edited by author 2005-06-10 17:56:32. |
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06/10/2005 06:19:39 PM · #81 |
Well, yes I guess everyone has their own idea what the "spirit" is.
But I keep coming back to this one thought - wasn't the whole POINT of the advanced rules stuff to give those demanding free reign to "fully process" their images? Wasn't the "spirit" of the two-rule approach to have challenges with image manipulation (for want of a better word) for the group that want it and challenges without - or at least with the bare minimum - for the other group, who wanted that?
To me personally the entire "spirit" of the basic ruleset is to do your picture creation in the camera; not to sit back and say "look at me, I can do all this image manipulation by dancing around the edge of legality". There's the other 50% of the challenges for that.
That's kind of based around my memory of all the long, rambling threads about this very question of advanced editing - there were very clearly two camps, and bing we have two rulesets.
But like you said, I'm not an official spiritual arbiter so this is all personal opinion and ultimately meaningless. Much like Bears :) |
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