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 05/31/2005 08:09:25 PM · #1
How can a make a sky not be overexposed and make the subject exposed correctly with all the details and not using a flash nor photoshop...
A shot in the scene to be read to print not even passing throught any computer to treat the image...
Please help me understand how this is done.
 05/31/2005 08:10:21 PM · #2
a gradient filter.
 05/31/2005 08:11:46 PM · #3
it can only be achieve with a gradient filter?
 05/31/2005 08:16:01 PM · #4
I use a two stop grey graduated neutral density filter for things like this:


works pretty well keeping the sky from completly blowing out. The Cokin P Series system seems to work well for me.
 05/31/2005 08:16:29 PM · #5
Originally posted by Discraft:
it can only be achieve with a gradient filter?

No, but that's the easiest. With no editing, assuming a very bright sky, your best option is to place the sun behind you - then it is shining on the person/thing you are taking a picture of. This makes the lighting and the image look flat but it gets the exposure closer to even.

d
 05/31/2005 08:17:22 PM · #6
Multiple exposures... shoot one exposure exposing for the sky and one exposing for the scene. Of course, you'll have to glue the photos together with crazy glue if you can't use photoshop. ;) In photoshop, you can then just sandwich the two exposures.
 05/31/2005 08:19:57 PM · #7
thanks guys and girls that was fast and effective... I will be looking for a gradient filter... By the way does anyone now a good one? or any brand is good?
 05/31/2005 08:21:18 PM · #8
Bracketing is also a good way, and from what I understand the 20d does it easily
 05/31/2005 08:22:20 PM · #9
Originally posted by Gil P:
Bracketing is also a good way, and from what I understand the 20d does it easily


Well if the highlights (the sky) are out of the range of producable tonal values, all the bracketing in the world won't help. :)
 05/31/2005 08:24:12 PM · #10
I don't think bracketing does this at all??? You might want to get more than one GND filter, they come in different strengths.
 05/31/2005 08:28:36 PM · #11
Originally posted by kyebosh:
I don't think bracketing does this at all??? You might want to get more than one GND filter, they come in different strengths.


well exposure bracketing is in fact designed to do just that, I am unaware of this feature being available on the 300d, but other bodies have it, and PS9.0 (cs2) as bracket merging featured into the software.
 05/31/2005 08:32:34 PM · #12
I can do exposure bracketing with my 300. the problem lies in the OPs statement - no photoshop. EB would only help if you could merge two or three images together. It wouldn't do anything for the images by themselves...

d
 05/31/2005 08:32:50 PM · #13
Originally posted by Gil P:
Originally posted by kyebosh:
I don't think bracketing does this at all??? You might want to get more than one GND filter, they come in different strengths.


well exposure bracketing is in fact designed to do just that, I am unaware of this feature being available on the 300d, but other bodies have it, and PS9.0 (cs2) as bracket merging featured into the software.


Bracketing will get you the exposure you want for that scene, with that lens and film. You can exposure bracket manually by simply stepping up/down the shutter speed and/or the f/stop...it's the same as using the exposure bracketing feature, but you have to remember to make the shutter speed/f-stop adjustments yourself for each exposure.

Message edited by author 2005-05-31 20:34:31.
 05/31/2005 08:38:41 PM · #14
The 300D does have expo bracketing ( as well as wb bracketing ) but the problem is that there can't be editing in his solution so it's instantly illiminated as a possibility. Also doesn't it also only work for static scenes while using a tripod?

just had a crazy thought... you could shoot film and make the lab do the work XD
 05/31/2005 08:39:11 PM · #15
Originally posted by kyebosh:
I don't think bracketing does this at all??? You might want to get more than one GND filter, they come in different strengths.


A graduated neutral density filter is like the front windshield on some cars. At the top area of some windshields there is a tint added, and at the bottom there is no tint. The grad n.d. does the same thing-it allows less light into the upper portion of the frame and more light gradually (hence "graduated") as you reach the lower portion of the frame. NO, you can't accomplish something like this with simple bracketing.

Edit: you could probably shoot through the type of windshield I mentioned above and get the graduated effect in your exposure, albeit not nearly as good as with an actual filter.

Message edited by author 2005-05-31 20:48:34.
 05/31/2005 09:26:06 PM · #16
For graduated filters the cokin system is the way to go (IMO) since you can place the gradient where you need it rather than having it in the middle all the time as would happen with a screw in graduated ND filter.
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