Can a shot be DQ'd a year later??

Fujifilm XF 55-200mm f/3.5-4.8 R LM OIS

05/13/2005 05:38:20 PM · #1

Guess I wasn't too good at math (or reading the rules) a year ago when I jumped into DPC and entered my first challenge: Wheels

Just noticed the submission dates: (3/31/2004 - 4/6/2004) and realized after fiddling with some of my old
Costa Rica shots yesterday, I had taken my shot before the dates (was taken on 3/18/04). A newbie mistake.

Image in question was:

and EXIF is as follows:

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DateTimeDigitized - 2004:03:18 09:49:05
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ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
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An honest mistake, but still doesn't belong in the challenge according to the rules.

ursula

Fujifilm X-T2

05/13/2005 05:40:30 PM · #2

I wish I could figure out how to disqualify some of my older shots that didn't do very well ...

LalliSig

Fisher Price Kid-Tough Digital

05/13/2005 05:40:55 PM · #3

Hehe, quit whining! I know you are only making this up to try to increase your average score :o)

(just to be clear, I am kidding of course)

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

05/13/2005 05:42:03 PM · #4

Hehehe - me too, but I would be asking this same question
had it scored a 7.50 - need have a level playing field here.

What's acually funny is that when I looked at the scoring breakdown, my eyes went to this first: Avg (commenters): 5.625 and was thinking that was what the score was.
4.7, 5.6 7.bazillion, makes no difference here.

Message edited by author 2005-05-13 17:46:37.

gaurawa

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

05/13/2005 05:43:04 PM · #5

5.8870 is not a bad average Brad !!

TechnoShroom

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

05/13/2005 05:44:19 PM · #6

As long as we're all coming clean. All of my photos that placed below 10th place were taken outside the challenge periods.

whew.... that's a load off.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

05/13/2005 05:44:31 PM · #7

To answer the original question, yes, it can. But we'll have to figure out how to activate the "request validation" method so you can submit the original ... I won't be getting to that until after work.

magicshutter

Nikon D70

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

05/13/2005 05:45:00 PM · #8

I am not for sure on this, but I think that was before they required an original. Could be wrong. Can't honestly see any reason why it wasn't DQ'd if an original was indeed submitted.

Jinjit

05/13/2005 05:46:35 PM · #9

Originally posted by larus:

Hehe, quit whining! I know you are only making this up to try to increase your average score :o)

(just to be clear, I am kidding of course)

And I second that! the kidding I mean... You whiner!

In hebrew we would call your question a kit-bag question.
I don't know if this term exists in other languages, so I will explain: Since everyone has to do an army service, everyone is familliar with the huge military kit-bag and everyone knows that if you are not specifically told to take it with you, you avoiddoing so at any cost!
but there's always one goody-two-shoe in the platoon who has to ask: "so do I take the kit-bag with me or not?"

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

05/13/2005 05:48:54 PM · #10

For what it's worth, this has NOTHING to do with averages, scores, etc.

It has to do with the fact that I know that it isn't legal (as of yesterday) and don't like things on my conscience - just a newbie goof.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

05/13/2005 05:49:21 PM · #11

Originally posted by magicshutter:

I am not for sure on this, but I think that was before they required an original. Could be wrong. Can't honestly see any reason why it wasn't DQ'd if an original was indeed submitted.

There was no DQ request at the time of the challenge, so no original was ever requested -- he's just bringing the violation to our attention now. I want to look at the original before DQ'ing the image, just like we would if it was a current challenge.

Jinjit

05/13/2005 05:54:58 PM · #12

Originally posted by BradP:

It has to do with the fact that I know that it isn't legal (as of yesterday) and don't like things on my conscience

Not wanting to offend of course. I just feel this was an honest mistake after all. Not an intentional law breaking. And I don't see much relevance to DQ it now.

ursula

Fujifilm X-T2

Fujifilm XF 55-200mm f/3.5-4.8 R LM OIS

05/13/2005 05:57:03 PM · #13

Sorry for having implied you were trying to disqualify a low scorer.

If anyone has any concerns about pictures that need to be disqualified a year later, I think the best way to address it is to send a PM to one of the SC members.

Kylie

Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ35

05/13/2005 05:58:49 PM · #14

Unless we are going to go back and DQ every picture from every challenge, I think it is a waste of time now to worry about entires that weren't hugely impactful to the overall results. Just my two-cents-worth. I will return to my quiet corner now. lol

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

05/13/2005 06:02:29 PM · #15

Sure Brad, but the rule is after 1 year, it's like pool, and when you scratch, you lose another high scoring image as well

;)

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

05/13/2005 06:06:23 PM · #16

It never hit me until I was processing some of my old shots from Costa Rica to include in my portfolio, relating to a thread yesterday.

Message edited by author 2005-05-13 18:59:43.

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

05/13/2005 06:09:00 PM · #17

Originally posted by Jinjit:

I just feel this was an honest mistake after all. Not an intentional law breaking. And I don't see much relevance to DQ it now.

That's true, and whether the image stands or falls has no real impact on the challenge or the photographer. Still, any chance to DQ BradP makes my mouse finger itch. ;-)

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

05/13/2005 06:10:01 PM · #18

Originally posted by nshapiro:

Sure Brad, but the rule is after 1 year, it's like pool, and when you scratch, you lose another high scoring image as well

;)

No problem - makes no difference to me really. If the admins say it's OK to leave in, that's fine too. Just hate possessing knowledge of something like this and just keeping quiet about it.

Jinjit

05/13/2005 06:10:29 PM · #19

Originally posted by BradP:

It never hit me until I was processing some of my old shots from Costa Rica
to include in my portfolio, relating to a thread yesterday.

So why not just tell us that you want us to have another look at those photos?
They are awsome. Well, most of then anyway. I'd love to go through them any time, with or without the DQ thingy.

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

05/13/2005 06:14:32 PM · #20

Originally posted by BradP:

Originally posted by nshapiro:
Sure Brad, but the rule is after 1 year, it's like pool, and when you scratch, you lose another high scoring image as well

;)

No problem - makes no difference to me really. If the admins say it's OK to leave in, that's fine too. Just hate possessing knowledge of something like this and just keeping quiet about it.

That's too sincere of a reaction to my joke. It wasn't a jab at your motives ;)

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

05/13/2005 06:47:15 PM · #21

Originally posted by nshapiro:

Originally posted by BradP:

Originally posted by nshapiro:
Sure Brad, but the rule is after 1 year, it's like pool, and when you scratch, you lose another high scoring image as well

;)

No problem - makes no difference to me really. If the admins say it's OK to leave in, that's fine too. Just hate possessing knowledge of something like this and just keeping quiet about it.

That's too sincere of a reaction to my joke. It wasn't a jab at your motives ;)

Well it should have been. Maybe a public (no pubic) caning would be in order huh?

Wonder how long I can keep a straight face here.

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That long.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

05/13/2005 06:49:02 PM · #22

Maybe now would be an opportune time to change batteries and check the date on your camera(s). I'm pretty sure mine are not yet adjusted for Daylight Saving Time ... : (

Artan

Canon Digital IXUS v3

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

05/13/2005 06:51:02 PM · #23

I changed my date info for that very reason this morning.

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Maybe now would be an opportune time to change batteries and check the date on your camera(s). I'm pretty sure mine are not yet adjusted for Daylight Saving Time ... : (

ursula

Fujifilm X-T2

Fujifilm XF 55-200mm f/3.5-4.8 R LM OIS

05/13/2005 06:52:51 PM · #24

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Maybe now would be an opportune time to change batteries and check the date on your camera(s). I'm pretty sure mine are not yet adjusted for Daylight Saving Time ... : (

I thought they were little computers and adjusted to DST automatically :)