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04/30/2005 05:06:02 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by colyla:
***A question for everyone: How about when you see a picture that seems...not very good. How does one go about critiqueing in a diplomatic way? |
Start here ... : ) |
There go here:
How I do A Critique |
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04/30/2005 06:35:03 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by gusto:
its similar to the stunt DP challenge pulls when requiring its members to have commented on posts in order to participate in a challenge (not all challenges) I dont often feel like making a comment nor feel I should be required to do so... |
What's the obsession with missing a challenge? I made enough comments to qualify a year ago but I will probably not even participate in that challenge. Big Deal, Jeez.
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04/30/2005 06:41:16 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by buzzmom:
oh my- this is a very tough thread. i have gotten a few emails already putting me down for my comments while voting is going on. this of course seems ridiculous. first off even the newbie that i am realize they just hung themselves to rip me a new one while the voting is still going on. a risk i would never take as based on the fact thqt they cut and pasted my comment it wasnt to hard to figure out which pic was theirs. second the one that abused me the worst was someone that i asked after the challenge was over could they help me learn how to take that type of shot as i feel they did it so well.
i learn alot from commenting as it really makes me look at all the aspects of the picture what i like and dont and how to shoot better.
"count on no one but yourself...then anything you get from others is gravy" |
Amy,
If you are not comfortable with receiving PM's during voting, there is an option available to members only to keep your comments anonymous until voting is over. You can enable this option by going to My Home/My Preferences and selecting the appropriate checkbox (be sure to save your changes once you have done so).
Otherwise, expect that you may occasionally receive replies to your comments via PM. If any of those replies are abusive or otherwise violate the site Terms of Service, please contact any member of Site Council. Be sure to save the PM as we may ask you to forward it to us.
Thanks,
Terry
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04/30/2005 06:45:46 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by tolovemoon:
So since we are on the subject... I am interested in knowing what a "real" or "true" "quality comment" consists of? |
I think a "quality comment" should include some positive reinforcement as well as the "you should haves" especially if you do the "You should have" thing. Sometimes it is hard and some times there doesn't seem to be enough time.
Barry |
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04/30/2005 06:54:13 PM · #55 |
| thank you terry for the info. i guess i was just surprised as i was so complimenting and they were so angry. will change preferences. thanks |
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04/30/2005 08:53:01 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by Barry:
Originally posted by tolovemoon:
So since we are on the subject... I am interested in knowing what a "real" or "true" "quality comment" consists of? |
I think a "quality comment" should include some positive reinforcement as well as the "you should haves" especially if you do the "You should have" thing. Sometimes it is hard and some times there doesn't seem to be enough time.
Barry |
I guess the only way that anyone will learn is to try it.. I am sure that if you try telling a photographer that has been here since this site has been here or any of the site councils that their shot has a problem needing fixed, or theres something in it you dont like but rather see.... they wont care or mind and you wont have anyone hate you... If you like you can practice on mine:) It took me awhile.. I too thought I wasnt qualified enough nor did I know anything,,, Once I took it on as art though because art I know, I couldnt go wrong... then I could come up with smaller but better wording in comments.. Folks you dont have to be a genious to have a opinion... But you do have to have common sense and a wee little heart not to crush anyones feelings... Be supportive and you will get support back..
I like to comment on others that have commented on mine ... I also have tried to comment on pictures that have been taking by members with the same camera that I have.. this helps me to better understand my camera..
I dont know still half of what is right and wrong in the "craft" or technical issues of photography, but I know what I see if I like it or not...
These are only my opinions here..:)
Surely if our kids have opinions that we can state them... try asking a child, they will give you the best honest opinion you could ever get...
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04/30/2005 11:22:45 PM · #57 |
One more question:
How do you know if you even qualified for the (commenters) extra challenge? |
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04/30/2005 11:41:47 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by colyla:
One more question:
How do you know if you even qualified for the (commenters) extra challenge? |
If you click on the challenge, it will either allow you to enter or tell you that you aren't eligible and how many more comments you need to make. |
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05/01/2005 01:14:57 AM · #59 |
Originally posted by Barry:
I think a "quality comment" should include some positive reinforcement as well as the "you should haves" especially if you do the "You should have" thing. Sometimes it is hard and some times there doesn't seem to be enough time. |
I don't understand this pc line of thought. If I have constructive critism of someones image, but it is all negative, should I not give this criticism because the photographer might cry? I think not. I'm not saying be abusive, I'm saying, 'If you do _____________ and _____________ your shot will be much more effective' is a much better comment than no comment at all. I refuse to hide my constructive critism in cotton candy. If you don't like it, don't submit entries. Once again, I wanna reinforce that I don't believe in being abusive, but sometimes tough love is the best love...
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05/01/2005 01:19:06 AM · #60 |
Originally posted by tolovemoon:
Surely if our kids have opinions that we can state them... try asking a child, they will give you the best honest opinion you could ever get... |
Following this logic expounds on my previous post. Kids do not hide their thoughts behind cotton candy. If they don't like something they tell it straight up. They don't say, "Brocolli is a very nice green color but tastes yucky". They say, "I don't like brocolli". We as adults accept that from kids, why can't we as adults accept that from other adults?
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05/01/2005 01:49:22 AM · #61 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
You don't have to offer advice, just say what you think about the picture. Seriously, when a photo opens up on the screen, everyone thinks something -- just write it down. |
Tried that..."What the F*** is this? It sucks a** bigtime"
Didn't go over too well.
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05/01/2005 10:00:23 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by colyla:
One more question:
How do you know if you even qualified for the (commenters) extra challenge? |
If you click on the challenge, it will either allow you to enter or tell you that you aren't eligible and how many more comments you need to make. |
Thanks MK! :) |
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05/01/2005 10:05:34 PM · #63 |
| Oh, you folks. Do you realize how hard I had to work to keep my relative lead? You have no idea. Congratulations to all and make it a habit to comment. |
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05/01/2005 10:07:24 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by graphicfunk:
Oh, you folks. Do you realize how hard I had to work to keep my relative lead? You have no idea. Congratulations to all and make it a habit to comment. |
Agreed, and should be a great contest ! |
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05/01/2005 10:57:43 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
You don't have to offer advice, just say what you think about the picture. Seriously, when a photo opens up on the screen, everyone thinks something -- just write it down. |
Tried that..."What the F*** is this? It sucks a** bigtime"
Didn't go over too well. |
I forgot to mention that you need to run that through the DPC Translator (Pat. Pending) as you write it ....
"I'm sorry, but I just don't see how your photo relates to this challenge, and therefore must reluctantly give you a low vote." |
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05/01/2005 11:01:37 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Tried that..."What the F*** is this? It sucks a** bigtime"
Didn't go over too well. |
I forgot to mention that you need to run that through the DPC Translator (Pat. Pending) as you write it ....
"I'm sorry, but I just don't see how your photo relates to this challenge, and therefore must reluctantly give you a low vote." [/quote]
DPC Translator - Definitely Politically Correct?
"What were you thinking?" is not the proper translation, so i s'pose I need the patented one then, huh?
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05/01/2005 11:05:25 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
"What were you thinking?" is not the proper translation, so i s'pose I need the patented one then, huh? |
I believe the ability to apply alternate idioms is available to paid members, but I can't remember where you set those preferences. |
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05/01/2005 11:15:59 PM · #68 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
"What were you thinking?" is not the proper translation, so i s'pose I need the patented one then, huh? |
I believe the ability to apply alternate idioms is available to paid members, but I can't remember where you set those preferences. |
It's part of the "Tact" option... |
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05/01/2005 11:25:34 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by C_Steve_G:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
"What were you thinking?" is not the proper translation, so i s'pose I need the patented one then, huh? |
I believe the ability to apply alternate idioms is available to paid members, but I can't remember where you set those preferences. |
It's part of the "Tact" option... |
Found it!
Tact Setting:
(_) Nothing but praise
(_) Helpful suggestions
(_) Describe dislikes in detail
(_) Refer all comments to SC for TOS violation review |
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05/01/2005 11:34:34 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by C_Steve_G:
It's part of the "Tact" option... |
Found it!
Tact Setting:
(_) Nothing but praise
(_) Helpful suggestions
(_) Describe dislikes in detail
(_) Refer all comments to SC for TOS violation review |
I have seen others use the Auto Helpful Comment - it marks the first 2 as helpful but not the last, but i cannot seem to make it work. Perhaps it is a bug in Firefox (I have the insurrectionist version, very rare. Lots of incompatibilites with the PC crowd (maybe i need a mac?))
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05/01/2005 11:40:24 PM · #71 |
| I received one of those "forced to comment" notes and I wasn't too pleased with that. |
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05/01/2005 11:54:06 PM · #72 |
| Do you have to be a member to take part in the invitational challenge? |
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05/02/2005 12:08:14 AM · #73 |
Originally posted by jachang:
Do you have to be a member to take part in the invitational challenge? |
Yes, it's a members challenge. You can tell which ones are members and which are 'everyone' challenges by the icon next to them on the main page. Grey are for everyone, Blue are members only.
Don't fret...there's still time to become a member! |
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05/02/2005 12:10:49 AM · #74 |
Originally posted by jachang:
Do you have to be a member to take part in the invitational challenge? |
Yes. A blue user icon next to any challenge indicates it is a member-only challenge. A grey user icon indicates it is open to all registered users.
-Terry
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