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04/29/2005 12:57:05 PM · #1
how come pc manufacturers say a camera is not guarenteed to work on a custom built computer versus a manufactured computer whats different between the 2 if both computers work? and if the camera doesnt work on a custom built what are some reason why it wouldnt ?
thanks
leon

Message edited by author 2005-04-29 13:04:20.
04/29/2005 01:06:04 PM · #2
Never heard of this before. Any references?
04/29/2005 01:08:44 PM · #3
Whot.............. a they nuts!!!!
All my PC custom , I don't like factory.
04/29/2005 01:08:47 PM · #4
Probably because the manufacturer has no control over all the parts and functions that go into it. He cannot be responsible and liable for something he does not make, sell, intend and know.
04/29/2005 01:09:15 PM · #5
almost all the camera manufucature list in the manual that the camera isnt guarenteeed to work on a custom nuilt computer especially fuji usually this information can be found around the software installation part of the manual
04/29/2005 01:10:24 PM · #6
Originally posted by aronya1:

Never heard of this before. Any references?


I think it is Dell
04/29/2005 01:11:08 PM · #7
Of course, manufacturers sell computers and will say anything to keep you from building your own. The ones I build for my own use are generally superior to manufactured computers, mainly because I tailor the build to suit my requirements (and budget!). I currently use a 3.2 gHz P4 with a Soyo motherboard that provides the Highpoint Raid drive controller and has a total of six IDE ports. I could not possibly afford to buy these features in a manufactured computer.
04/29/2005 01:12:38 PM · #8
go here and look at page 88 in this manual f10 manual from fuji under notes
04/29/2005 01:16:25 PM · #9
also does anybody know of any resaons why camera wouldnt work on a custom built computer and the cameara works fine on a manufactured one?
04/29/2005 01:20:07 PM · #10
It makes no sense. My experience says that software runs better on clone systems because they don't have all the extra crap software running at bootup that name brand machines always have.
04/29/2005 01:29:28 PM · #11
O yeh All Pc a custom so factory Pc=custom PC. They just change some plugs on board .
Same processor, chipset, same mainboard with factory BIOS, cd, dvd, harddrive, floppy, usb and fire wire ports
04/29/2005 01:35:48 PM · #12
All digital cameras I have ever owned worked on my Computers. I have never bought a computer. I have always built my own towers, so I can tell you from experience that the camera should work as long as the needed drivers are installed if necessary.
04/29/2005 01:38:35 PM · #13
but still check out that manually they wouldnt have written that for nothing why would they put that in there ?

leon
04/29/2005 01:47:34 PM · #14
It's called CYA; Cover Your A#%
04/29/2005 01:49:47 PM · #15
Originally posted by aronya1:

It's called CYA; Cover Your A#%


lol i see. . I have a custom built computer to not the best i havent been keep up with it lately but another person i know has a custom built computer and had it checked out by microsoft and his camera still wouldnt work on it and the camera was brand new and worked on a manuafactured computer fine so thats why iam confused
04/29/2005 01:54:13 PM · #16
Use a Card Reader...
04/29/2005 01:55:43 PM · #17
Originally posted by buzzrock:

Use a Card Reader...


thats a idea i hadnt thought of !
04/29/2005 02:16:58 PM · #18
Originally posted by LEONJR:

how come pc manufacturers say a camera is not guarenteed to work on a custom built computer versus a manufactured computer...
thanks
leon


Because they want you to buy their PC... The better people to trust is the camera manufacture that says works on blah blah blah with blah blah blah...etc...etc...

Little news flash on the OEM'd mobos that Dell, Gateway, HP/Compact et el use in their systems...they are no where near the quality/expandability that you would get if you went down and got a ABIT, ASUS, MSI, Shuttle (with a known chipset) et el mobo and did a BYO PC... Gateway mobos in the past were designed (Jabil) and manufactured by kadoka... now thats a name I trust...proprietary stuff with kmartish chipsets...Ever try to put RAM in one of these...

I would fear these (big name PCs) not being compatible moreso than going to the local pewter shop (club) whose uses ASUS mobos in the systems they build for consumers...even most of the (young) people that build these pcs take pride in what they are doing and attention to detail is evident in their finished product. Dells/Gateways et el are manufactured across the border from me here put together by machines and tested by individuals who have no personal interest in computers anyway.

To answer your question...they are trying to make a sale.

Message edited by author 2005-04-29 14:20:23.
04/29/2005 02:20:51 PM · #19
thats true very true but fuji doesnt make computers

Message edited by author 2005-04-29 14:21:08.
04/29/2005 02:26:13 PM · #20
Leon, it's called "boilerplate". All manufactured computers these days have the necessary stuff in them to hook cameras up. This isn't true of home-built computers, necessarily. They don't all have the external connections, the uSB ports or the sockets needed. Hard to imagine, but true. A friend of mine locally bought a camera and had no way to hook it up to his home-built computer until he went and splurged on a usb card with a port. So Fuji is covering their ass, so you can't accuse them of deceiving you if you own a retarded computer.

Robt.
04/29/2005 02:28:32 PM · #21
ahhhhhh thats the anwser i was looking for
04/29/2005 02:33:50 PM · #22
but what are some other reasons it wouldnt work besides usb ports ?
04/29/2005 02:50:08 PM · #23
Originally posted by bear_music:

... So Fuji is covering their ass, so you can't accuse them of deceiving you if you own a retarded computer.

Robt.


Or if you own a very old computer or it was put together by a person that didn't follow through and complete the build (nice way of saying lazy).

You would have to be shopping for motherboards at big lots! to be able to find a motherboard that doesn't have at least (2) usb v1.0/2.2 on the backplate, and at least (1) usually (2) headers on the motherboard itself (which would require the builder to plug in the included adapter that would replace one of the fillers where add-in cards go on the back of the PC) or you can plug these headers directly into a new fangled multi function card readers.

If someone recently bought a homebrew computer that had no available USB connectiods and a (PCI) USB card had to be added they purchased a really old used computer...
04/29/2005 02:52:57 PM · #24
Yes, it is very hard to find any computer/motherboard these days w/o a USB port. Fuji is only saying this because they don't want you to blame them for anything if it doesn't work with your custom bulit computer.
04/29/2005 02:56:49 PM · #25
Originally posted by LEONJR:

but what are some other reasons it wouldnt work besides usb ports ?


BIOS on the Motherboard... Device Drivers and/or an Older OS or a newer one that has not been updated.

Run Windows Update (choose custom not auto) look and see if Windows has any updates under Hardware.

Check the manufactures site for BIOS updates.

Can you post the Mobo Make and Model?

Message edited by author 2005-04-29 14:57:15.
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