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04/28/2005 04:18:01 AM · #51

We got way off topic in this thread... "I mostly blame myself." (sandlot)

So does anyone else agree with me that nabisco overacted in taking down his prints. I mean it was a university security officer (at every college I know of, they have no authority anyways) tells him to remove his dog and beer. Then all the bent up frustration of dealing with changes in dates, holdups, and maybe he had one too many of those beers :) made him snap and just pull his prints. (At least thats how I understand the story). Nabisco correct me where im wrong.

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04/28/2005 04:26:52 AM · #52

I would love the idea of someday being able to bring said dog, beer, etc. to a art show hanging. I've had the eye-opening experience of moving from one of the greatest drinking capitals of the world, New Orleans, to my current bible-belt home on the northern border of Louisiana and Arkansas. I have been to party the party Mecca of colleges, LSU, and currently attend Louisiana Tech in Ruston; home of non-beer drinking (not allowed on campus) but crawfish eating Southern Pentecostals and Baptists. I feel your pain Nsbca and love your work, but I can't sympathize much with your position. Living in these almost contradicting places, I've found that, many times, I need to put away my ego or face the wrath of some over/under zealous bureaucrat that feels they have to follow the rules to the "T". It's not necessarily that you're right and they're wrong (although, in my drinking opinion / New Orleans soul, they're very wrong), but it's boiling down to: you play by their rules or you don't and you go home probably empty handed. I definitely envy you though, for being able to walk away from the experience and accomplishment (and money too) over beer and pets.

PS- please note, I rarely if ever follow my own advice; to the chagrin of my a$$; and so, I am in no way passing judgment. In fact, depending on the day, I just might have cussed them out while storming out, but honestly, later I would've quietly regretted it.

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04/28/2005 04:27:24 AM · #53

Originally posted by mrmojo:

We got way off topic in this thread... "I mostly blame myself." (sandlot)

I think he felt justified in what he did and most readers (myself included) didn't have a lot of the background to the story - at least not initially.

I personally don't think it would be professional to bring beer & the dog, even if a precedent had been set. But there are different acceptable formalities and protocols in different industries and environments and I'll give nbsca the benefit of the doubt. After all, he is the one who has to live with the consequences if any.

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04/28/2005 04:33:12 AM · #54

Originally posted by Tiberius:

That's a funny thread for my to read. And I must say is someway beyond my comprehention.
Back home in Romania drinks are almost a must in an exhibit(even if you hold it in a campus). Adding the fact that the beer was for the helpers than I might say that nobody will help you unless you treat them some drinks. Or maybe we drink too much back home...
As for the dog issue...what issue? It's a family member so who cares?
I can not judge the situation but I certainly wonder if I would like to live there!

It's the same here, whenever anything takes place in the village it's usually held and the primary school and there is allways beer and wine available even if the event is based around the kids. Even in MacDonalds here it's normal to order a beer with your burger.

I guess life is rather different in 'The Land of the Free'

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04/28/2005 04:36:19 AM · #55

Originally posted by colda:

Even in MacDonalds here it's normal to order a beer with your burger.

Yeap! You can have Tuborg at Mac in Romania

Originally posted by colda:

I guess life is rather different in 'The Land of the Free'

Yeap!

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04/28/2005 04:37:52 AM · #56

eric you just said my point better than I did (much nicer to I might add) I dont condone what the cop did and If I were the cop I would have pet the dog and asked for a beer (now thats an occupation you can really get in trouble in for drinking)

I just disagree with nabisco's stubbornness, but then again he's not me and im sure glad im not him

On a side note: Isnt the fact that he found his dog in the swamp rather hickish. I mean almost every dog I have ever had has been a stray or an offspring of one of my strays, but I never found them in a swamp. Maybe we are only semi hicks in iowa :)

nsbca7

04/28/2005 04:41:21 AM · #57

Originally posted by mrmojo:

So does anyone else agree with me that nabisco overacted in taking down his prints. I mean it was a university security officer (at every college I know of, they have no authority anyways) tells him to remove his dog and beer.

A security officer who brought a city police officer and a county sheriffs deputy with him. Never said shit about the beer before that moment. I had one of the college deans helping me hang the work, who seemed to have no problem whatsover with the beer the dog or the beaver. Cutting off my nose? Well screw it. Sometimes you have to draw the line. I drew mine and if you think that is not where you have drawn yours, that would be because that is who you are. I really don't like shows anyway. Too much bullshit. So many people who haven't a clue comeing up and telling you how great your work is. They wouldn't know what great was without someone else to tell them what it was. I would rather sit in the woods and just take pictures. So what if no one sees them. That is not really the reason I take pictures anyway.

ericsuth

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04/28/2005 04:42:16 AM · #58

Originally posted by mrmojo:

On a side note: Isnt the fact that he found his dog in the swamp rather hickish. I mean almost every dog I have ever had has been a stray or an offspring of one of my strays, but I never found them in a swamp. Maybe we are only semi hicks in iowa :)

LOL! I actually found my dog (a stray puppy abandoned by her mother) in class, while the teacher was lecturing, at Louisiana Tech's College of Business.

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04/28/2005 04:43:01 AM · #59

i cant believe how mean people are being here. Even if you are joking about the "hick" comment mrmojo, i dont think it is a very nice one at that. I can completely understand nsbca point. I am dumbfounded at the narrow mindness here

04/28/2005 04:44:33 AM · #60

Originally posted by mrmojo:

Hey Nathan, you live in Wisconsin, home of the cheeseheads and U of Wisconsin (one of the largest party schools in the nation, great holloween party. Definately recommend going some time). Drinking is lightyears ahead of the rest of the country, so drinking while working is more exceptable, it is here, but not in the professional manner as setting up for a gallery. We do take cases of beer into the darkroom, hope to someday get pony keg in next to the print dryer.

But would you walk away from potentially several thousand dollar job, because a college student with a badge tells you to put your beer and dog in the truck.

Truthfully? I'm not sure, but if it happened the way it did in this thread, maybe. Then of course I don't own a dog or drink beer. Now if I brought my wife's rabbit and a pitcher of kool-aid and they told me to leave....

04/28/2005 04:47:44 AM · #61

Originally posted by mrmojo:

I don't think there would have been a problem if it was ONLY the security gaurd, however the county sherrif was brought in with him, and that escalated the whole thing to another level.

04/28/2005 04:49:49 AM · #62

Originally posted by mrmojo:

Does Iowa even HAVE swamps?

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04/28/2005 04:51:30 AM · #63

Originally posted by lentil:

yup. It just so happens that my narrow mind agrees with yours.

ericsuth

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04/28/2005 04:52:30 AM · #64

Originally posted by NathanW:

Originally posted by mrmojo:
On a side note: Isnt the fact that he found his dog in the swamp rather hickish. I mean almost every dog I have ever had has been a stray or an offspring of one of my strays, but I never found them in a swamp. Maybe we are only semi hicks in iowa :)

Does Iowa even HAVE swamps?

And we need to get the slurs straight!
Technically, I think you're closer to a coonass than a hick if we're talking swamps ;)

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04/28/2005 04:55:38 AM · #65

thats great ericsouth. Thats funny on so many levels

nsbca7

04/28/2005 04:57:26 AM · #66

On another side note I had taken portraits of the city police officer's two young duaghters at the request of his ex-wife a few month ago. So after the dean told him that the security guard was out of line he comes up, apoligizes, shakes my hand and asks how he can get a couple of prints of the kids for his mother. Then he holds the door for me while I load my truck back up.

04/28/2005 05:05:33 AM · #67

Originally posted by nsbca7:

I can guess on that. I'm freinds with several of the local cops and was talking with one of them just tonight, he was bored and stopped in to use the bathroom. Spent about 30 minutes just BSing. Kind of makes me wonder what he'd do if he ever pulled me over for speeding.

nsbca7, I understand where you're coming from. Maybe they'll call you back in the morning.

04/28/2005 05:06:36 AM · #68

Wait, im narrow minded because I called him a hick, while at the same time called my self a hick. Its called sarcasm. How about you go to bed lentil and wake up with a sense of humor. Almost every comment I have said has been in humor, kpriest gets it, and im pretty sure everyone else but nabisco gets it.

Also, to clear up some confusion, he got his dog from the swamp, not me. I find most of mine in the wintertime when them darn city folk drop there black labs off because they got to big, and we bring them in from the cold.