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04/28/2005 07:04:54 PM · #101 |
Originally posted by BradP:
Everything happens in it's own time & place, and for me, it just wasn't my time....I have many other ways to contribute here, and perhaps it makes it easier that way, as I can do it in my timeframe. |
Well said, Brad. You had my support until Woody entered the race. But seriously, I'm not clear on what the attraction is to being Site Council. I guess maybe it's recognition for your efforts and expertise. Which all 30 nominees/volunteers no doubt deserve. But also look at it this way - it was more time requirements and I think they have some "Code of Conduct" they must adhere to that I, for one, could never follow. :)
If I might paraphrase Brad's comments: "It's all good." :)
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04/28/2005 08:38:12 PM · #102 |
I do not think this site is cliquey. I would take a guess and say that a handful here and there are friends outside of the site and may pat each others back from time to time on this site, but that is called Friendship. and about Dave.... he might be a little bitter or feel overlooked, but he is a great guy and I'm sure will be on SC one day soon... :)
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04/28/2005 08:57:23 PM · #103 |
Hey...sorry to everyone for being angry. It's really a silly thing to be upset about. I don't know why I expected someone with my limited knowledge and skills in photography would have been selected for the position. I guess I just assumed that since I was willing to put in the time and help, that was enough. It's cool though...I'm going to keep learning and try to be as helpful as I can and participate more in the CC. I mean that's what we're all here for anyway -- to learn, and help learn. Again, sorry.
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04/28/2005 09:03:56 PM · #104 |
Well done deapee.
snip> I mean that's what we're all here for anyway -- to learn, and help learn.
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04/28/2005 09:09:30 PM · #105 |
Originally posted by frisca:
I know that one of our new council had applied 3 times!! |
This is my second time. So it's not like this is an automatic in for anyone. Seriously depee, if you honestly want to be on SC, start looking at how you respond to people in the forums. You have had some incidents where you lose your temper over something, and sound off on it. That's not all bad, but it is kinda bad in someone who's on SC. You don't need to be a brilliant photographer to be on SC. I mean heck, they let me in. :)
But if you really want to do this, you could probably start with thinking about how you come across in the forums. Part of being on SC is the ability to communicate with others. It people are always misunderstanding what you say...that might be something to look at resolving.
Just a thought. :)
Clara
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04/28/2005 09:15:35 PM · #106 |
Originally posted by deapee:
I'm going to keep learning and try to be as helpful as I can and participate more in the CC. |
now that 
*sniff, sniff* do i smell truce?
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04/28/2005 09:16:48 PM · #107 |
Originally posted by muckpond:
*sniff, sniff* do i smell truce? |
/me hands muck a new bottle of deoderant and whispers in his ear...
Clara
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04/28/2005 10:43:56 PM · #108 |
Just for the record, I did not apply for SC this time. But I have twice in the past so I know what it's like to be passed over. It hurts. Bad. Especially if your expectations have been raised by encouragement from others. I am willing to tolerate someone being bitter, and lashing out in the forums to vent. No biggie, that's only human. And there are surely others whose names we don't know that are feeling the pain privately. How you conduct yourself after the the shock and disappointment pass is the more important thing.
If you think about the names that have come up in the forums, and remember that applications were cut off at about 30, it's not hard to see that there really were many qualified applicants beyond the four selected. That wasn't just nice talk, it was the truth.
deapee has made a very good start on preparing himself for the next time there are openings with the apology he has made in this thread. That's not an easy thing to do. And it doesn't happen everyday around here. He is setting an example.
But this should really be a time for us to celebrate a new generation of leadership coming to the fore in our community. I think I have been here long enough to get a fix on each of these four individuals. I am very comfortable with the selections.
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04/28/2005 11:44:53 PM · #109 |
Some cool stuff happening tonight . . . makes me smile. I congratulate anyone who wants to give to the site, to grow, to evolve as a human, and has the time to give of themselves. Don't worry about the rest.
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04/29/2005 12:35:04 AM · #110 |
And they say this type of ending only occurs in family sitcoms. :)
...now where are those thread killers?
Message edited by author 2005-04-29 00:35:28.
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04/29/2005 12:42:29 AM · #111 |
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04/29/2005 12:45:21 AM · #112 |
Originally posted by frisca:
I know that one of our new council had applied 3 times!! |
I've been denied four times! Sometimes you just gotta get the hint :P |
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04/29/2005 12:46:13 AM · #113 |
| Well let me snuggle right up to a veteran then. One in a row for me! |
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04/29/2005 12:53:31 AM · #114 |
Originally posted by BradP:
Well let me snuggle right up to a veteran then. One in a row for me! |
you gonna try to bump us off? muckpond looks nervously over his shoulder... lol
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04/29/2005 02:31:21 PM · #115 |
Well this was the second time I applied. I'm curious what was important to them in the selection, for next time. I didn't take the time to write up anything--I didn't want to waste time on it if there was little chance, without being nominated by someone (I wasn't). Did others write something? Were the winners nominated?
I just expressed my willingness to help, and the fact that I'm always here, monitoring the site if not responding to a thread.
So for next time, what's important? |
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04/29/2005 04:43:15 PM · #116 |
You're too abstract, Neil. Face it. Opaque, elliptical, off-the-wall photographs, dangerous stuff, almost subversive. I'm sure I got blackballed on the strength of my "self portrait as raindrop" entry alone, as well i should have been....
Robt.
Message edited by author 2005-04-29 16:44:04.
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04/29/2005 04:53:47 PM · #117 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
You're too abstract, Neil. Face it. Opaque, elliptical, off-the-wall photographs, dangerous stuff, almost subversive. I'm sure I got blackballed on the strength of my "self portrait as raindrop" entry alone, as well i should have been.... |
Hey, you guys keep on submitting quality abstracts and offbeat interpretations or I'm gonna be mad ... and lonely : (
I don't think I'm breaking any confidences to say I don't think your self-portrait had anything to do with our decisions : ) |
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04/29/2005 05:07:30 PM · #118 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
You're too abstract, Neil. Face it. Opaque, elliptical, off-the-wall photographs, dangerous stuff, almost subversive. I'm sure I got blackballed on the strength of my "self portrait as raindrop" entry alone, as well i should have been.... |
You mean you guys didn't get the "I'm Sorry" email?
I can't divulge the entire contents of the one I got, but a couple of key words were
"Too Goofy", "Too Short", "Butt Ugly" and "Need a Real Camera".
I agree on all counts.
ROFL
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04/29/2005 05:23:40 PM · #119 |
[quote=BradP]
You mean you guys didn't get the "I'm Sorry" email?
I can't divulge the entire contents of the one I got, but a couple of key words were
"Too Goofy", "Too Short", "Butt Ugly" and "Need a Real Camera".
No, Brad, it was the part about being a liar! Well, maybe the Goofy part, but short, ugly and need a better camera? NOT! LOL |
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04/29/2005 05:24:54 PM · #120 |
As has been said previously, it was a difficult choice. We had 38 (?) applicants, and in my opinion, at least 35 of them could have done the job well.
As far as what the site council looked at. . . There was this really complex algorithm that took our biorhythms when we read you application "letter." Then, from that, it ranked them alphabetically according to shoe size, factored in things like hair color, computer size, car driven, and whether or not you are proficient at picking or blowing your nose. Then, we got the top ones.
Obviously, just kidding.
I, personally, looked at what your application "letter" said, how long you have been with dpc, comments made, challenges entered, forum posts, etc. Then, I considered my "personal" opinion of you. Were you level headed in the forums when someone called you an idiotic, sludge- sucking, wannabe photographer, or did you respond with coolness? Do you take personal criticism well (nah, we never get any of that) in the forums? Are you someone that can work well with others, even if you are a stark individual who has strong opinions? Can you work with someone with different opinions than those that you hold? Do you seem to get frustrated easily? Do you seem to have a working understanding of how the site/cameras/photography/software works (you do not have to be a professional or even good, just "know" what those things are/do whether or not you can do them)?
I was only one voice in the selection. I'm sure others had different opinions/biases/values/critieria.
As far as the said raindrop, well, we won't go there. :-)
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04/29/2005 05:26:44 PM · #121 |
Oh yea, the "nominations." Didn't play a big role in my choice(s). If someone had like 18,456 "oh my gosh, don't pick them" comments, it might have made a difference, but I didn't factor it in.
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04/29/2005 05:32:30 PM · #122 |
Well, thanks to everyone who sent me an email or private message both during 'nominations' and after. I guess I make some people's day just a little bit better anyway...Here's to the next time :-D
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04/29/2005 05:36:24 PM · #123 |
I'd second pretty much what Karmat said. I didn't put a whole lot of weight on the applications and put zero weight on "nominations" but considered everything else she mentioned. While it's somewhat minor, another thing I also really like is someone who has basic writing/spelling/grammar skills. I, of course, wouldn't not vote for an excellent candidate simply becaues they wouldn't write well but it is nice to be able to read a three paragraph forum post that isn't all one sentence. :)
Really, as a number of people have said, it was a difficult choice with a large number of excellent candidates. And because of that, a number of people who are excellent contributers and model citizens on the site were not chosen. Don't let it stop you from continued excellence! |
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04/29/2005 05:45:04 PM · #124 |
We were supposed to write a letter? I thought they just went by your initials.
I had applied for SC before, but I was overseas this time with precious little internet access when the openings were announced. I wouldn't have even known about it if not for a helpful DPCer's PM (thanks, M). I figured that I've been visible enough in the forums to have a reputation (good or bad), so I just sent a message stating that I was interested. Enough days had passed that I was surprised when the announcement was made.
There will be other openings and opportunities in the future. For now, you can celebrate having a little extra time to take pictures. ;-)
/scalvert checks quickly for spelling errors...
Message edited by author 2005-04-29 17:47:11. |
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04/29/2005 05:51:15 PM · #125 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
so I just sent a message stating that I was interested. |
Wow...seems pretty easy. Maybe I'll try that next time :eyeroll:
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