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04/28/2005 06:38:56 PM · #101 |
Which photo is yours. If I see it wrong, than I need to be corrected.
The name is Bill by the way.
I cannot believe how much hair is raised when there is a disagreement. Every one of comments on my photo are positive, yet the scores show average. The problem is that I voiced my opinion prior and during the voting rather than vote and shut up. Comments are what assists us in the learning process. The get a grip comment was alttle out of line but we have been communicating by email also. Anyway. Move on
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04/28/2005 08:16:06 PM · #102 |
You started this whole thread with:
I have looked at all the photo's. The first thing I am going to do is determined whether the entry fits the challenge or not. If I believe it does not fit the best I am going to do is give it a three, regardless of how well the photo is. I know there are going to be upset people but I feel that is only fair. If the photo meets the challenge a minimum score of 5 is given. Then I will look at the artistic point then go to the technical. I will vote accordingly. Forgive me, this can be ugly!
You then left a comment on my entry, without explanation or elaboration,that said
I'm sorry, but I feel this does not meet the challenge. By your first comment, this is a guaranteed 3 (at best). On an entry that is scoring above 6.
You pre-announced you were going to be a hard a__. Don't be surprised if folks react negatively. You yourself said Forgive me, this can be ugly! You were right. |
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04/28/2005 08:27:10 PM · #103 |
| I will no better next time. Do not start a thread like this. Its been pretty hot here. What is funny a lot of people are complaining about there scores. I am only one. I believe alot of people are looking at this in the same way I am. Some of the best photo's I have seen, I believed did not meet the criteria. I have eliminated most of my comments on the ones I felt did not fit. It amazes me how upset people think when they know who gave a low score. |
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04/28/2005 08:34:26 PM · #104 |
Originally posted by bcoble:
"Create an image where your subject is the strong point of the image, but only occupying a very small portion of the image space."
As I see it. Your eyes should be drawn to the subject. Nothing else.
The better you accomplish this the better it is. That is my perception. |
I agree with this .... alot of the pictures have titles that suggest what the subject should be in order for the photo to be accepted as minamalism.... the titles don't always coincide with what I see to be the subject.... in fact, this suggestive use of titles is almost offensive when it is used in this way.... definitely scoring these photos lower!!! |
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04/28/2005 08:40:19 PM · #105 |
| Thanks for agreeing with me. I have been beat up all day on this subject. |
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04/28/2005 08:50:41 PM · #106 |
Originally posted by bcoble:
Thanks for agreeing with me. I have been beat up all day on this subject. |
Absolutely! I think alot of people have relied on their titles and possibly some are scoring positively based on these titles.... ughh!!
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04/28/2005 08:54:45 PM · #107 |
Originally posted by bcoble:
As I see it. Your eyes should be drawn to the subject. Nothing else. The better you accomplish this the better it is. That is my perception. |
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So your eye should be drawn to nothing else? Why? Are you looking only for bland meaningless backgrounds? The background could be a strong force...don't ignore the possibility.
I've been looking for images where the background plays a role. Anyway whatsoever. A major role or a minor role but there should be some interaction...if that makes sense. Maybe it could even be a heavy player or at least add some drama or contrast?
Sticking a flower in the bottom left hand corner of a blue sky canvas certainly meets the challenge rule but who gives a boink? Unless the blue sky really pulls somethong special out of the flower, I will not rate that image exceptionally well.
Also there's nothing in the actual definition of minimalism or the challenge guidline that supports your criteria.
Message edited by author 2005-04-28 20:58:06.
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04/28/2005 09:04:21 PM · #108 |
| my understanding is that the background should be a compliment to the subject of a photo. in this challenge the subject is to be the "strong point". To me this implies that the complimentary elements are minimal. If it is a simple blue sky - that seems pretty minimal to me.... |
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04/29/2005 11:05:20 AM · #109 |
I'm having a great deal of trouble scoring this challenge.
Rather than handing out a string of 4's (that's my low point), I think I'd better stop. I don't like handing out 4's. I'm seem to be toggling between 8's and 4's and it's an odd feeling.
For some reason, as I've interpreted the essence of the challenge, taking photo's of things far away doesn't seem to be doing anything for me. The power of the small subject against a large canvas/background and their particular interaction or relationship seems to have been lost on many entries. Don't get me wrong there's the occasional sky, beach or plane shot that has some character but again, the essence and strength of the two in balance, ratio are seldom found in this lot.
What to do....?
Message edited by author 2005-04-29 11:22:40.
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04/30/2005 04:55:34 AM · #110 |
Originally posted by bcoble:
I'm done. I understand your point and hopefully you understand mine. Lets get into the next challenges. Oh, one more thing. I liked the photo though.
Bill |
...so much that you gave it a 3... LOL! Bill, of course is just a game, no worries, just trying to make some sense out of it anyway. I wish you would rethink your position after all what has been said and done, but I am pretty sure you wouldn't, so... let's move to the next challenge!
My best,
V. |
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