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04/27/2005 01:24:21 AM · #1 |
I am going to need a bit of help understanding the score for this photo.
I was under the impression that the miserable score must be attributed to my interpretation of the challenge (missing paper and scissors); however, the top three finishers have only rocks. This blows my theory out of the water. So help me out please. Why 4.8 for this:
and what would you have given this photo in the people challenge?
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04/27/2005 01:34:55 AM · #2 |
I personally didn't care for this picture. I would have liked to have seen more space around the model. The border is a little harsh for me. I gave it a 6 and didn't knock off for lack of paper/scissors.
I noticed a lot of people left comments about the rocks not being a major element/main focus. Maybe that's where you lost some points with them? |
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04/27/2005 01:47:16 AM · #3 |
Hi Darlene -
To me, there are several approaches to this, or any challenge:
1. Stick plainly to the challenge topic (not just within the letter of the law) and present a unique, clever, original and highly appealing image. Your technicals must be above average as well for this to do well.
2. Meet the minimal qualifications for the challenge (i.e. there is at least one of the 3 items in your photo) and blow people away with an awesome shot that makes them forget what the challenge topic even was - and if they check, you've got it covered. Of course your photographic technicals (focus, DOF, lighting, etc.) must be top notch for you to get away with this.
3. Combine the two and produce an image that could actually represent the challenge title (the way images are used to represent collections in portfolios) AND it contains a very awe-inspiring AND unique AND powerful image AND a clever or simple title. This approach is rarely successful from my recollections.
4. Do a halfway decent nude shot. ;-) j/k
The top 3 RPS challenge winners in my opinion went with the second approach - it is the most commonly used by excellent photographers, most of whom have the science down or just get real lucky. ;-) Look at the "Challenge Archives" link in the menu and read the titles of all the challenges and then look at the top 3 finishers displayed and see which of the above approaches is most prevalent.
Your photo finished just below average, I believe, because it barely met the challenge, it was not hugely impactful or stunning, the technicals and post-processing were ok (I don't see anything wrong with them). I gave it a 5. In the people challenge I might have given it a 6.
Personally, I frown on (i.e. score lower) the shots of beautiful sunsets or beach scenes that are fantastic photos worthy of framing and, oh yeah, there's a rock down in the corner, so it technically qualifies for the challenge.
If I had to write the challenge rules for the RPS challenge, it would've said: Your photo must contain ALL 3 of the objects and they must be the main subject of the image. - I think it would've made for a more interesting collection of entries.
Requisite Disclaimer: The preceeding comments are the opinion of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the site council or administrators and are often at odds with the masses.
Message edited by author 2005-04-27 02:15:09. |
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04/27/2005 02:03:27 AM · #4 |
Hi Darlene,
I never even made into this challenge submission or vote-wise.
Without looking at any of the other comments here or on your picture, here is my take on it (for what it's worth)
What is the first thing that gets my attention is this shot?
The young lady (you?) posed nicely here. The black & white was a good choice for the post-processing as it generates a mood and takes away the distractions that color can bring into a shot. Perhaps a little more smile (I'm such a sucker for an attractive lady/model with a nice smile) would warm the shot, maybe not. There's a nice contrast between the light pants & dark rocks and the dark hair/shirt & the light sky.
At no point have I mentioned the rocks. They are a nice setting for this portrait, but are not the focal point of the image. Rocks, Paper, Scissors - any of which "should" have been the strong point to a voter, not a supplemental part of the shot. Granted, the rocks are numerous and well represented, but I can only suspect the voting majority never saw past her.
On a side note, this is a great picture!
I would have been proud to produce a shot like this.
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04/27/2005 02:07:35 AM · #5 |
Me3. It's a very nice picture but it looked like it was entered in the wrong challenge, as if you meant to enter it in "people". The rocks are incidental to the image. In the 3 ribboners you pointed to, the rocks ARE the image. Those pictures are ABOUT rocks; this one's about a young lady who happens to be sitting on some rocks.
But it's a really nice shot...
Robt.
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04/27/2005 02:15:38 AM · #6 |
Well, thanks for the reply guys. I am just glad to know that some of those whose work I respect also think this is a really nice photo regardless of challenge constraints.
Brad,
Not me. My lovely friend Sena. She is the mother of the other little girl that I photograph often. I am better suited for the other end of the camera!
Thanks.
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04/27/2005 02:22:02 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by dartompkins:
I am better suited for the other end of the camera! |
So I see:
(snagged right off your portfolio page) LOL
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04/27/2005 02:29:01 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by BradP:
Originally posted by dartompkins:
I am better suited for the other end of the camera! |
So I see:
(snagged right off your portfolio page) LOL |
Yeah Yeah I am planning on fixing that soon. : ) |
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04/27/2005 02:32:59 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by dartompkins:
Yeah Yeah I am planning on fixing that soon. : ) |
Keep in mind approach #4 as mentioned in my lengthy dissertation. ;-)
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04/27/2005 02:34:23 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by kpriest:
Originally posted by dartompkins:
Yeah Yeah I am planning on fixing that soon. : ) |
Keep in mind approach #4 as mentioned in my lengthy dissertation. ;-) |
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04/27/2005 02:40:03 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by BradP:
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 Ouch again.
Dang, Brad, I'm going to have to find a bigger smiley to beat up your smiley. |
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04/27/2005 02:45:10 AM · #12 |
Here we are jackin' Darlene's thread - Hehehehe
A Smiley War! Cool - (think we should start our own thread tho)
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04/27/2005 03:06:41 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by BradP:
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This is officially one of the best smiley's I've ever seen! |
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04/27/2005 03:09:42 AM · #14 |
I sense a "smiley" Challenge topic suggestion coming on...
or a WeeMee challenge? Or a combination? ...going to bed now... |
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Ouch again.
