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 04/20/2005 11:46:25 AM · #1
It's out and MSRP of $899 with a 18-55mm kit lens. Sounds like they are trying to undercut the Rebel XT. From the specs, it sounds like a winner.
 04/20/2005 11:51:25 AM · #2
Go HERE to compare the D70, D70s and D50
 04/20/2005 12:10:18 PM · #3
Ken Rockwell's site also has some comparison information. At this point it seems to be all based on the leaked manual. It will be interesting to see what image comparisons reveal once they become available.

I think we're getting close to a point (but not there yet!) where the need to upgrade will start to decrease. The D70s looks more like a well thought out refinement than a next generation camera.

I'm not sure what it will take to make me want to replace my D70, but right now the D2x is the only thing I'm interested in. Would take a heck of a price drop to turn that interest into action though since my D70 creates knock-out images and easily survives all the abuse I give it.
 04/20/2005 12:12:13 PM · #4
dpreview has a pre-production model review of both.

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 04/20/2005 12:16:36 PM · #5
Why did they come out with the D70s also? They're almost the same, from what I read at dpreview.
 04/20/2005 12:26:50 PM · #6
Personally, I'm happy to see prices drop for entry level dSLR's. They already have instant start up/shut down, hugh buffers that can shoot somewhere around 30 RAW shots in 30 seconds, batteries that can last 300-600 shots, and 6-8MP sensors that can easily produce nice 8x10s or bigger. Technologically, I think the rapid increase in technology is starting to plateu and hopefully, we'll see prices fall. The Nikon D50 for $899, D70s for $1199, hopefully, the third Digital Rebel will be $799 and the 30D will be around $1000. That's when I'll upgrade to the 30D. Nikon blew it with me when I was looking to get into dSLR, I was looking at the Rebel and the D70, but the price difference in the kits and the accessories was too much. Now that I have 6 lenses for the Canon system, I don't see myself switching to Nikon. Nikon seems to be getting it smarter by having a camera that people will buy to get into the SLR world. Once you have a few lens, than you tend to stay with that system.
 04/20/2005 12:29:22 PM · #7
I just bought my D70 a few months back so I'm not budging for a while but Nikon needs to make something that's better than the Canon 20D, for the same price and they didn't. I'm surprised they didn't shoot higher but it looks like they'll give the Canon xt a run for the money.

Hopefully when I'm ready for an upgrade, a few years down the line, there will be something there that's worth the effort and money.
 04/20/2005 12:32:02 PM · #8
To talk about the D70 or D70s may I suggest this thead. :-)
 04/20/2005 12:36:08 PM · #9
Hindsight is always 20/20, and technology always advances. those are constants (besides death and taxes) that cannot be changed.

I got my Rebel back in january. It was not an easy decision. I wanted the D70, or perhaps the 20D, but they were not in my budget. Now a scant 3 months later out comes teh D50...affordable. The XT is more what i wanted feature wise but at an affordable price (less compromise that with the rebel 300).

Oh well. The 300 will make a nice backup camera when I get the 30D. Had I known then what i know now i'dbe pullling my hair out decindg between the D50/350XT...instead i am taking pictures!

Nikon and Canon have slightly differing philisophies on cameras. Pick the philisophy and then pick the camera and you will be happy.
 04/20/2005 12:37:17 PM · #10
well....Nikon users will finally have something to brag about.....poor kids !!
 04/20/2005 12:38:59 PM · #11
I find a hard time to belive that people will spend more money to get a 2 inc. ldc instead ot the 1.8 in the D70. there's not enouth changes that are worth changing.
 04/20/2005 12:39:14 PM · #12
"Nikon and Canon have slightly differing philisophies on cameras. Pick the philisophy and then pick the camera and you will be happy"

Nikon is a more ergomic and more user friendly body IMO.... but nothing rivals Canon "L" glass.
 04/20/2005 12:44:45 PM · #13
With the introduction of these two new cameras, Nikon still does not compete. IMO, only died-in-the-wool Nikon lovers will go for either of these 'too little, too late' entries.
 04/20/2005 12:51:10 PM · #14
... and the D50 uses SD cards instead of Compact Flash. What's up with that?
 04/20/2005 01:00:04 PM · #15
Originally posted by ElGordo:
With the introduction of these two new cameras, Nikon still does not compete. IMO, only died-in-the-wool Nikon lovers will go for either of these 'too little, too late' entries.

You may be right but I think the D50 will go head to head with the XT and siphon off a lot of first time DSLR buyers.

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
... and the D50 uses SD cards instead of Compact Flash. What's up with that?

Maybe it's because SD cards are smaller and fit better into the design of a small-bodied camera.
 04/20/2005 01:02:38 PM · #16
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
... and the D50 uses SD cards instead of Compact Flash. What's up with that?


Gives me a reason to buy. I would say a good percentage of the people upgrading from small P&S cameras are using sd cards instead of compact flash.

Basically it's an starter (affordable version) to get you into the Nikon system.
 04/20/2005 01:02:47 PM · #17
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
... and the D50 uses SD cards instead of Compact Flash. What's up with that?

Maybe it's because SD cards are smaller and fit better into the design of a small-bodied camera.


Or they are trying to reign in some users from other companies however anyone upgrading from other Nikon products won't be too happy.
04/20/2005 01:06:39 PM · #18
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Or they are trying to reign in some users from other companies however anyone upgrading from other Nikon products won't be too happy.


There aren't too many upgrade paths to a D50 which would have a problem with SD. All of the cameras below it use SD. It's only the cameras which are above the D50 that use CF cards.
 04/20/2005 01:12:34 PM · #19
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
... and the D50 uses SD cards instead of Compact Flash. What's up with that?

Maybe it's because SD cards are smaller and fit better into the design of a small-bodied camera.


Or they are trying to reign in some users from other companies however anyone upgrading from other Nikon products won't be too happy.


I thought the most important thing is the lenses and not the media? :P
 04/20/2005 01:19:01 PM · #20
Originally posted by faidoi:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
... and the D50 uses SD cards instead of Compact Flash. What's up with that?

Maybe it's because SD cards are smaller and fit better into the design of a small-bodied camera.


Or they are trying to reign in some users from other companies however anyone upgrading from other Nikon products won't be too happy.


I thought the most important thing is the lenses and not the media? :P


How it feels in your hand and how easy it is for your to use is the main issue for me. Lenses are a close second then the media. If you already have a camera that uses Compact Flash then your first look would be at cameras that use the same media especially if you already have a collection of cards.

Message edited by author 2005-04-20 13:19:23.
 04/20/2005 01:48:58 PM · #21
I think that the SD idea is a good one, I have a collection of SD cards when I got my D70 and if, at the time, the D50 had been available then I would have probably bought it, even if I prefer the D70.

Another line of thought in all this is where will the D70 be priced, obviously it will be less than the D70s so I'd assume that it will be the same as the D50 which for me is ideal as the idea of having a back-up body is a very tempting one :)
 04/20/2005 04:23:35 PM · #22
colda,
I think D70 is now being replaced by the D70s.
 04/20/2005 04:28:57 PM · #23
Originally posted by yido:
colda,
I think D70 is now being replaced by the D70s.


'tis very true, which means that the D70 will be available at a reduced price :)
 04/20/2005 05:25:10 PM · #24
Originally posted by colda:
Originally posted by yido:
colda,
I think D70 is now being replaced by the D70s.


'tis very true, which means that the D70 will be available at a reduced price :)


On the Nikon Canada site they price the D70s at $1599.95 and the D70 at $1499.95 (wich it's been at for some time now), a $100.00 differance (Canadian).

I've found only 3 units of the D70 left in stores in my area. If the price for the D70 drops, I'll have to buy it quick before they're all gone.

I'm still not decided on wich one to buy. The D70s not only has a bigger LCD screen, it also has new AF features. Ah, decisions...

Edit: Oh yeah and the D50 will not be available in Canada until june.

Message edited by author 2005-04-20 17:28:11.
 04/20/2005 05:37:02 PM · #25
I am going to hang on til next PMA, Feb '06. Panasonic will be getting into DSLR market too, and I am hopng for a Zuiko lens mount with the Oly/Pana relationship. I don't really care for the Oly bodies now, the Kodak sensor is just too noisy at 800+ ISO, but if Pana can solve the noise on the sensor at 4/3rds size I'd be interested. Plus that is going to push the prices down even more...
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