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04/20/2005 11:39:40 AM · #1 |
within my own critiques I try to be neutral, and I try not to give personal oppinions on someones art/picture.
Being in the film biz for 18 years, there are a couple things that I have learned.
Every pix, it does not matter if it is color, black & white, sepia, or filtered, has to have one basic ingredient to balance the pix.
That ingredient is your pure blacks, and pure whites. Not all pix can be judged like this so another route I take is the "shadows & Light", or the "darks and brights".
When I say "whites need work", I simply mean that the blacks, shadows, or darks are out of balance, or over baring of the whites. When I say the "blacks need work" it because the pix is pretty saturated.
This is how I critique, this is how I stay neutral on the pix, this is how I keep my opinions minimal.
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04/20/2005 11:48:59 AM · #2 |
Whilst I largely agree with your point - other than that it seems a bit declarative to say 'all' pictures - I would ddisagree with your aim of keeping your opinions minimal. The great thing here about having so many judges, is that variety of opinions.
And thanks for your kind comment on my Free Study shot.
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04/20/2005 12:09:55 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by e301:
Whilst I largely agree with your point - other than that it seems a bit declarative to say 'all' pictures - I would ddisagree with your aim of keeping your opinions minimal. The great thing here about having so many judges, is that variety of opinions.
And thanks for your kind comment on my Free Study shot.
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If you got the balls to stand up to greats like Ansel Adams, or Piccasso, or Van Gogh, ( can't think of anyone alive right now), and to stand there and tell them what they should be doing with their art, their vision, their form, their format, then all the power to ya buddy.
Potentially that is what anyone is doing when a personal oppinion, and not an overview is given.
even the greats had to start somewhere, and to guide them onto your path is not doing any justice to their work.
Message edited by author 2005-04-20 12:22:44.
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04/20/2005 12:22:36 PM · #4 |
Yeah, I have. But I would be offering valid criticism. Imagine going to David bailey and saying 'yeah, cool photo, but it would be better without that blown background'.
One could, however, validly, say 'I don't like the isolation and clinical nature of your images which result from that choice of pure white background;' and I'm certain Mr Bailey wouldn't be offended.
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04/20/2005 12:26:28 PM · #5 |
You are missing the point.
If you are not willing to open your mind to the validity of a good critique, then keep doing what you do, and don't learn.
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04/20/2005 12:38:06 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by swinging_johnson_v1:
You are missing the point.
If you are not willing to open your mind to the validity of a good critique, then keep doing what you do, and don't learn. |
You are certainly swinging your Johnson on this one.
Be careful when stating opinion as fact. There might be some validity to your thoughts but they may need to be tempered for digestion.
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04/20/2005 12:39:22 PM · #7 |
You may be right.
sorry for any regurgitation.
Message edited by author 2005-04-20 12:41:53.
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04/20/2005 12:56:44 PM · #8 |
Thomas,
Thanks for your comment on my Abandoned Building.
Message edited by author 2005-04-20 13:42:09. |
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04/20/2005 01:14:21 PM · #9 |
Isn't telling someone that they need to 'work on their whites' an opinion? I mean, what if they wanted the photo like that, and what if they like it like that. The fact that you don't like it like that is an opinion. Right?
I think it's that way with everything, not just whites and blacks, but focus. Say a person purposely made the photo soft cause that's the effect they wanted, but you think it should be crisp focus, you could say that 'this might have been the effect that you were going for, but I don't prefer it'. It's all about opinions, since there really are no set rules in photography. |
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04/20/2005 02:00:43 PM · #10 |
I think this is why it is so hard to give a good critique and not be considered being rude.
I have a style that a lot of people don't care for. I like the blown out whites (high key photography). Others can't stand it. If they want to give their opinion/critique that is fine. Just don't expect me to change it. :-))
Now if you are saying that what you do is better then what I do then I would be a little upset. It is an individuals style that shows in each photograph and makes a photographer unique.
Don't get me wrong..I wouldn't be where I am today if it wasn't for critiques.
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