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04/08/2005 09:51:06 AM · #1
I had many wonderful comments on my this entry and thank everyone for them.
Just wondering, I had the odd comment on it being too grey, is it the old question CRT vs TFT ? or is it too grey.
I welcome all comments please as it appears alright to my eyes on my CRT and 15" TFT.


typo edit.

Thanks in advance.
Paul.

Message edited by author 2005-04-08 09:51:27.
04/08/2005 09:55:42 AM · #2
I guess "too dark" would have to be defined. I also think it could have been a little lighter because I think it would have brought out the lettering more (possibly to the point where you could read it all).

Still a great picture though.
04/08/2005 10:52:38 AM · #3
I think the commentor may have been referring to the fact that there is not much white or black in the image - its just all grey. The person was looking for more contrast.

Not necessarily my opinion, just trying to assist in your question...

d
04/08/2005 10:52:59 AM · #4
I think one issue is that he eye is drawn away from the subject by the bright area in the sky. A related issue is that the subject is pretty dark and lacks contrast. It's hard to read the inscription, but it begs to be read.
04/08/2005 01:08:49 PM · #5
I suppose the colour version had a little more contrast but the mood wasn't there, for me at least.
As for the inscription, well view for yourself,I tried and tried to bring it out as good as I could, guess it was just too weathered.
Thanks for your views, I appreciate them.
For illustration this had normal daylight conversion from raw.

04/08/2005 01:16:55 PM · #6
Her's a quick take, hope you don't mind...



Al that was done was a shadow/highlight adjustment and USM (two passes, traditional sharpening and local contrast enhancement). The inscription is now very readable, and the lighter overal tone of the stone places it more at the center of attention. There's now a little more interest in the patterns & textures on the stone, due to the increased contrast. there's a slight halo, due to working on the small file, but that could easily be avoided with a bit more care than I took.

Message edited by author 2005-04-08 13:18:15.
04/08/2005 01:28:21 PM · #7
Here's a very quick run at it using the green channel as the primary conversion channel, lightening the grass dramatically. Plus a few swipes of the burn tool at highlights and 7% over the sky, especially corners. Total time elapsed, +/- 2 mins :-)



Robt.

When making B/W conversions using channels, whichever channel you use as primary will tend to LIGHTEN those parts of the image that are that color and DARKEN those parts that are the complement of that color. So red channel darkens blues and greens while lightening reds and yellows, green channel darkens reds and blues while lightening greens and yellows. They fudge over each other, depending on how close they are to being opposites on the color wheel. This is an unscientific, grossly over-simplified explanation.

It's worth noting that when shotting landscapes with a lot of green in them, the green channel is often preferable to the more usual red channel in making the conversion. Using red channel darkens both blue sky and green foliage, leaving a lot of problems where they overlap, while green channel darkens sky (somewhat less than red does) and lightens green, allowing much more separation of trees from sky.

Message edited by author 2005-04-08 13:36:01.
04/08/2005 01:47:09 PM · #8
Thanks Robert, Fritz,
Some very interesting approaches which I will employ in the future.
I have 30 odd images from the cemetary as yet unedited, anyone want a few :)

Paul.
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