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03/23/2005 09:09:19 PM · #1
I am starting to get very aggrivated with my pictures. The quality absolutely sucks! Everything is very blurry, all the time. For example: This is my most recent crappy image of the day!

I use AF and manual and both turn out blurry! I have cleaned my lenses, filters... Every possible thing I can, I have cleaned. The shot of this tractor wheel is straight off the camera. I didn't do any correction at all (only resized to 600px). Any tips or suggestions??? I need to get this fixed before I do my portrait shoot this coming weekend. The photo was shot at: 1/4000 f/4 ISO200 at large fine quality. Thanks!!!
03/23/2005 09:12:11 PM · #2
Have you cleaned both ends of your lenses?

If you cleaned your sensor, how did you do it?

-Terry
03/23/2005 09:12:35 PM · #3
sensor doesn't look foggy?
03/23/2005 09:14:54 PM · #4
It certainly looks like it's misfocused, but there's no reference in this pic to know if it is focused in back or in front of the subject. Try shooting a small object on a high-detail surface, note the point on which you focused, and then look at the surface in the pic. Is the focus point in front of or behind the subject? Can you alleviate the problem by focusing manually?
The above are some tests you can run to try and diagnose the problem.
03/23/2005 09:15:16 PM · #5
why f/4? why 1/4000?
03/23/2005 09:16:44 PM · #6
Originally posted by kirbic:

It certainly looks like it's misfocused, but there's no reference in this pic to know if it is focused in back or in front of the subject. Try shooting a small object on a high-detail surface, note the point on which you focused, and then look at the surface in the pic. Is the focus point in front of or behind the subject? Can you alleviate the problem by focusing manually?
The above are some tests you can run to try and diagnose the problem.


from looking at the image I would say that it was not a focus problem. I would check the sensor.
03/23/2005 09:16:53 PM · #7
Nothing looks foggy. I cleaned the sensor with soft air. Cleaned all visible glass on lenses and filters, all sides, several times. Nothing looks foggy at all. I did find that my pl filter was making some of my photos a little blurry, so I quit using it, but for this particular photo, I only used my crystal clear uv filter and my 80-200 lens.
03/23/2005 09:17:56 PM · #8
whats the exif say?
do you have sharpening totally off ?
do you have a original NEF i could see ?
03/23/2005 09:18:10 PM · #9
Also try removing all filters. Just to make sure.
03/23/2005 09:18:23 PM · #10
I'm not certain that image is actually out of focus, more like extremely un-sharp, to my eye. You'd think at f/4 there's be more progressive bokeh, no? If that's right then it's presumably sensor/processing. Tried a RAW image?
03/23/2005 09:18:53 PM · #11
Originally posted by dahkota:

why f/4? why 1/4000?


It was an incredibly bright day out and I wanted to notice the dof a lot. I wanted to use f/2.8, but figured it would be a little too dramatic and it was wayy too bright outside for f/2.8.
03/23/2005 09:19:21 PM · #12
Originally posted by bradical:

Nothing looks foggy. I cleaned the sensor with soft air. Cleaned all visible glass on lenses and filters, all sides, several times. Nothing looks foggy at all. I did find that my pl filter was making some of my photos a little blurry, so I quit using it, but for this particular photo, I only used my crystal clear uv filter and my 80-200 lens.


You didn't use one of those aerosol compressed air cans for cleaning computers, did you?

-Terry
03/23/2005 09:21:55 PM · #13
Originally posted by ralphnev:

whats the exif say?
do you have sharpening totally off ?
do you have a original NEF i could see ?

Don't have original NEF because my computer is in repair and so I am not able to use photoshop or any program that displays any info about the photo. I have sharpening on low. What would be the best color mode: III (sRGB) or II (AdobeRGB)? Would this make a difference as well (I know it shouldn't I don't think).
03/23/2005 09:22:03 PM · #14
man that looks like a sensor problem to me...like there's a film on it or on your lens on either side. That's rather disturbing.
03/23/2005 09:23:30 PM · #15
You didn't use one of those aerosol compressed air cans for cleaning computers, did you?

-Terry [/quote]

Nope, I used the bulb in my lens cleaning kit (the one you squeeze and air comes out the tip). I assume the canned air is way too much pressure right?
03/23/2005 09:25:11 PM · #16
Originally posted by bradical:

Originally posted by ralphnev:

whats the exif say?
do you have sharpening totally off ?
do you have a original NEF i could see ?

Don't have original NEF because my computer is in repair and so I am not able to use photoshop or any program that displays any info about the photo. I have sharpening on low. What would be the best color mode: III (sRGB) or II (AdobeRGB)? Would this make a difference as well (I know it shouldn't I don't think).


All the in camera sharpening in the world is not going to help that. If you have already tried other lenses and are still getting the same results I would recomend sending the body to Nikon for evaluation and possible repair.
03/23/2005 09:25:16 PM · #17
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

You didn't use one of those aerosol compressed air cans for cleaning computers, did you?

-Terry


Originally posted by bradical:

Nope, I used the bulb in my lens cleaning kit (the one you squeeze and air comes out the tip). I assume the canned air is way too much pressure right?


The canned air is not air at all, and can contain lubricants and other contaminants. If held wrong, it can also expel liquid that acts as a refrigerant.

Message edited by author 2005-03-23 21:27:16.
03/23/2005 09:25:57 PM · #18
Does it look focused in the viewfinder? And when you use AF does it seek before locking? Have you tried resetting all your settings and trying again? I had a similar problem where it wouldnt focus at all and it turned out it was a setting I had put it on (which I cant remember now) and after resetting it worked ok.
03/23/2005 09:27:17 PM · #19
Originally posted by bradical:


Don't have original NEF because my computer is in repair and so I am not able to use photoshop or any program that displays any info about the photo. I have sharpening on low. What would be the best color mode: III (sRGB) or II (AdobeRGB)? Would this make a difference as well (I know it shouldn't I don't think).


color mode won't aaffect the sharpness --
try a defaut of 'normal' sharpening -
i only use none/low if i plan on post processing (or i regress sharpening in Nikon Capture to none & do USM there ...)
anyway of mailing a NEF or puting it on a site for me to look at ?

03/23/2005 09:30:29 PM · #20
No, that is my only camera and so i can't even take a picture and put it up there.
03/23/2005 09:33:45 PM · #21
Did you touch the mirror?
03/23/2005 09:35:49 PM · #22
Originally posted by bradical:

Originally posted by dahkota:

why f/4? why 1/4000?


It was an incredibly bright day out and I wanted to notice the dof a lot. I wanted to use f/2.8, but figured it would be a little too dramatic and it was wayy too bright outside for f/2.8.


I would lower the ISO to 100 and try again. It looks to me like the shutter was open too long for the light available. I'll bet your max is 1/4000. Try shutting down the ap to about 8 or better.

Cheaper test than getting it repaired. Good luck!

d
03/23/2005 09:35:53 PM · #23
Originally posted by xion:

Did you touch the mirror?

nope

Is this pissin' you guys off as much as it is me?

Message edited by author 2005-03-23 21:38:06.
03/23/2005 09:38:37 PM · #24
Originally posted by bradical:

Originally posted by xion:

Did you touch the mirror?

nope


I asked because if the mirror is not aligned or fucntioning properly, it could give similar results.
03/23/2005 09:39:49 PM · #25
Originally posted by dahkota:

Originally posted by bradical:

Originally posted by dahkota:

why f/4? why 1/4000?


It was an incredibly bright day out and I wanted to notice the dof a lot. I wanted to use f/2.8, but figured it would be a little too dramatic and it was wayy too bright outside for f/2.8.


I would lower the ISO to 100 and try again. It looks to me like the shutter was open too long for the light available. I'll bet your max is 1/4000. Try shutting down the ap to about 8 or better.

Cheaper test than getting it repaired. Good luck!

d


How was the shutter opened too long?????? You lost me on that one.
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