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03/18/2005 01:17:01 PM · #1
I was asked by one of my portrait customers if I would shoot their wedding next year. I was also asked to draw up a contract for this, but I have NO CLUE how to do so.

Does anyone have a sample or know where I can get one?

Thanks,
Lorrie
03/18/2005 01:26:17 PM · #2
Check out this site, they have pre-printed contracts that you can buy.

//www.nebs.com/NASApp/nebsEcat/index.jsp
03/18/2005 01:54:15 PM · #3
Thanks for the link!!!!!!
03/18/2005 02:52:53 PM · #4
Nolo Press also has a lot of legal books, forms, and software which can help you run a photo (or any) business. They also have a huge collection of Lawyer Jokes if you're into those things.
03/18/2005 03:18:08 PM · #5
I have checked out otehr photographers sites to see waht they have for contracts, or in their contracts.
Most give ownership of the proofs to the bride. most give the negatives (if film shooters) but keep the copyright. Some list specifically what shots to take or avoid. Most have spaces for details such as time and place of dressing, wedding, location and reception.

Some of the unique differences are interesting, no doubt arising from issues each photog has had in the past....
"I am the only photographer. If anyone else take photos, i am releived of my duties and can leave immediately. there will be no refund" is one of them.

Most seem to have a line for the bride to designate a person to point out who is who to the photog, and that the photog is not liable if this person fails in tehir duties, or if a pic was requested of Grandma Jones and Grandma is a no show.

Lots of CYA stuff like that.

I was also alerted by some photogs to ruan any contract by a local lawyer, as each state has it's own particular take on things.
03/18/2005 03:28:28 PM · #6
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

I have checked out otehr photographers sites to see waht they have for contracts, or in their contracts.
Most give ownership of the proofs to the bride. most give the negatives (if film shooters) but keep the copyright. Some list specifically what shots to take or avoid. Most have spaces for details such as time and place of dressing, wedding, location and reception.

Some of the unique differences are interesting, no doubt arising from issues each photog has had in the past....
"I am the only photographer. If anyone else take photos, i am releived of my duties and can leave immediately. there will be no refund" is one of them.

Most seem to have a line for the bride to designate a person to point out who is who to the photog, and that the photog is not liable if this person fails in tehir duties, or if a pic was requested of Grandma Jones and Grandma is a no show.

Lots of CYA stuff like that.

I was also alerted by some photogs to ruan any contract by a local lawyer, as each state has it's own particular take on things.


I disagree that most give any rights away, unless they are lazy. They are loosing tons of money by doing that. Most of those types of shooters that I have run into, don't do a very good job and that way is the prints don't come back great, they can pass the blame on the lab. Shame Shame...
03/18/2005 03:50:34 PM · #7
No they are not giving away rights, just hte negatives.
For example...
All rights and copyrights to the photos remain with the Photographer. The Photographer reserves the right to use negatives, digital scans and/or reproductions for advertising, display, Internet promotion, publication or other purposes. After a period of one year, the photographer will, upon request by the client, offer to the client the entire set of edited proof photos for a charge of $350 on the understanding that the copyright of all photographs relating to the said wedding remain with the photographer unless the photographer releases such copyright. At this time, the couple may make unlimited reproductions as they wish. This offer is made on the understanding that if the originals are destroyed through fire, flood, or any other means whether by accident or deliberate, or stolen, then any liability ends.

and this version

FILM and COPYRIGHTS: Until final payment for services rendered is made, the photographs produced by ______________ Photography are protected by Federal Copyright Law (all rights reserved) and may not be reproduced in any manner without _________ Photography's explicitly written permission. Upon final payment by the CLIENT, limited copyright ownership of the resulting images will be transferred to the CLIENT under the following conditions: The negatives and or slides are the property of CLIENT for personal use and for the purposes of the reproduction and giving of photographs to friends and relatives. The Client must obtain written permission from and compensate _____________ Photography prior to the CLIENT or its friends and relatives publishing or selling the photographs for profit

and then this one

[/i]4. OWNERSHIP OF NEGATIVES: It is agreed that ownership of the negatives (digital or film) will transfer to the Client
upon delivery of the wedding photography package ordered on this Contract. However, the Photographer retains the display
promotion permissions described in Provision #5 below even while the Client owns the digital or film negatives and
copyright of the images.[/i]

Message edited by author 2005-03-18 15:52:59.
03/18/2005 10:02:25 PM · #8
Originally posted by gwphoto:

Check out this site, they have pre-printed contracts that you can buy.

//www.nebs.com/NASApp/nebsEcat/index.jsp


Thanks, I have to save up a few bucks, but there is a lot of nice stuff on there! :)
03/18/2005 10:18:57 PM · #9
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

No they are not giving away rights, just hte negatives.
For example...
All rights and copyrights to the photos remain with the Photographer. The Photographer reserves the right to use negatives, digital scans and/or reproductions for advertising, display, Internet promotion, publication or other purposes. After a period of one year, the photographer will, upon request by the client, offer to the client the entire set of edited proof photos for a charge of $350 on the understanding that the copyright of all photographs relating to the said wedding remain with the photographer unless the photographer releases such copyright. At this time, the couple may make unlimited reproductions as they wish. This offer is made on the understanding that if the originals are destroyed through fire, flood, or any other means whether by accident or deliberate, or stolen, then any liability ends.

and this version

FILM and COPYRIGHTS: Until final payment for services rendered is made, the photographs produced by ______________ Photography are protected by Federal Copyright Law (all rights reserved) and may not be reproduced in any manner without _________ Photography's explicitly written permission. Upon final payment by the CLIENT, limited copyright ownership of the resulting images will be transferred to the CLIENT under the following conditions: The negatives and or slides are the property of CLIENT for personal use and for the purposes of the reproduction and giving of photographs to friends and relatives. The Client must obtain written permission from and compensate _____________ Photography prior to the CLIENT or its friends and relatives publishing or selling the photographs for profit

and then this one

[/i]4. OWNERSHIP OF NEGATIVES: It is agreed that ownership of the negatives (digital or film) will transfer to the Client
upon delivery of the wedding photography package ordered on this Contract. However, the Photographer retains the display
promotion permissions described in Provision #5 below even while the Client owns the digital or film negatives and
copyright of the images.[/i]


To me, that is pretty unprofessional, even though it is nicely legalesed.

Basically, what the photographer is doing is abdicating responsibility for properly storing the negatives while expecting the client to come back to them for prints. What a crock!
03/18/2005 11:11:23 PM · #10
Originally posted by nsoroma79:

I was asked by one of my portrait customers if I would shoot their wedding next year. I was also asked to draw up a contract for this, but I have NO CLUE how to do so.

Does anyone have a sample or know where I can get one?

Thanks,
Lorrie


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03/19/2005 12:32:18 AM · #11
Originally posted by GeneralE:

They also have a huge collection of Lawyer Jokes if you're into those things.


Do you know how to save a bus full of lawyers driving off a cliff?
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