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03/17/2005 02:32:28 PM · #1 |
I performed a quick search in the forms for this suggestion, but didn't see it yet.
I think it would be nice to have a 'hold for comments' link to be displayed while voting in a challenge, perhaps under the vote numbering scale. When clicked, the photo will be moved to a section titled 'held for comments' and organized much like the 1-10 voted photos are organized. Thus, after voting, you will have your photos organized by their votes, 1 through 10, and an additional section titled 'held for comments'. This way, after you have completed your voting, you can view your skipped photos.
I know I have many photos that I skip voting on (by hitting the << or >> links) because I'd like to comment on them. The trouble is that unless I vote on that image it ALWAYS shows up for a vote in the next couple of clicks. After I've skipped 4 or 5 photos, I get nothing but photos I want save until later for comments. It is very aggravating.
I also know that some people have developed their own 'hold for comments' system by voting the image as a 1, then later returning to re-vote / comment on all the photos they have given a 1 vote. Some people don't like seeing their scores sit artificially lower than it should.
Thoughts, comments? Heck, does it even make sense?
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03/17/2005 03:03:19 PM · #2 |
I think a good way to do this would be to introduce a '0' or '-' voting along to the 1 to 10 votes. They're separated from the others so you can find them easily, they won't reappear because they have already been voted on, and if ever you should forget to vote on them, the score you gave them wouldn't count, as they're not in the 1 to 10 range.
Maybe this is possible programming-wise? I agree with Jason that this is a problem that should be fixed.
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03/17/2005 03:08:01 PM · #3 |
Great idea. This might help to get more comments, too. I'm sure part of the reason people don't comment more is that we have so many images to wade thru in many challenges, there is (at least for me) a feeling of urgency during voting. |
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03/17/2005 03:08:21 PM · #4 |
When I sort the images during my first voting pass-through, I used to sort them all into 4 and 6; on later passes I'd refine the voting and comment. I was having the same problem "remembering" which ones I especially wanted to comment on, so now I sort in 3 piles: 5,6, and 7. The 7's and 5's are as 6 and 4 before; images that I see as the high-scorers, and those I see as the also-rans. But now I drop any images on which I am sure I wish to comment into the 6's pile.
On my second pass I open the 6's pile first, make my comments, and assign the final scores. Then I go back to the 7's pile and start voting those where I think they belong, and finally (time permitting) sort the 5's pile into more finely-tuned votes. This means that any images I don't get a chance to go through a second time before voting closes will receive a 5 from me, which seems fair enough. Before, any image I didn't reach a second time before close of voting received a 4, and this may have been a little harsh.
Robt.
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03/17/2005 03:11:42 PM · #5 |
Robert has a good method. In fact you suggested it to me a couple of weeks ago and it is the system I use now.
Message edited by author 2005-03-17 15:11:57.
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03/17/2005 03:23:29 PM · #6 |
Robert, your method may work fine, but it sounds quite complicated and time consuming to me. I don't want to browse the pictures twice.
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03/17/2005 03:26:47 PM · #7 |
Robert, very good idea. I will try this when voting Best Friends. :) |
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03/17/2005 03:29:01 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by aronya1: Great idea. This might help to get more comments, too. I'm sure part of the reason people don't comment more is that we have so many images to wade thru in many challenges, there is (at least for me) a feeling of urgency during voting. |
I do most of my voting at work (while on calls or what-not), but I do not comment on images while at work (for a number of reasons)...which usually means I don't enter comments on images I want to enter comments on...
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03/17/2005 03:31:49 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by gloda: Robert, your method may work fine, but it sounds quite complicated and time consuming to me. I don't want to browse the pictures twice. |
I find this actually ends up taking LESS time. I sit down and run through the images one after the other very rapidly as I sort them, and by the time I am done I have a complete sense of the entire challenge.
Now the images are sorted, they stay in a certain order, and I can go back in whenever I have time and comment and refine my votes in full awareness of all the images in the challenge.
Before, when I would comment, vote, move on and never look back, I found I was scoring sometimes out of proportion to what the challenge held. And I was spending more time, on average, on each image than I do now.
Robt.
Message edited by author 2005-03-17 15:32:41.
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03/17/2005 03:32:30 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by gloda: I think a good way to do this would be to introduce a '0' or '-' voting along to the 1 to 10 votes. They're separated from the others so you can find them easily, ... |
whew...sounds like I conveyed my thoughts...that's exactly the kind of thing I was thinking about...
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03/17/2005 03:33:42 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by bear_music: When I sort the images during my first voting pass-through, I used to sort them all into 4 and 6; on later passes I'd refine the voting and comment. I was having the same problem "remembering" which ones I especially wanted to comment on, so now I sort in 3 piles: 5,6, and 7. The 7's and 5's are as 6 and 4 before; images that I see as the high-scorers, and those I see as the also-rans. But now I drop any images on which I am sure I wish to comment into the 6's pile.
On my second pass I open the 6's pile first, make my comments, and assign the final scores. Then I go back to the 7's pile and start voting those where I think they belong, and finally (time permitting) sort the 5's pile into more finely-tuned votes. This means that any images I don't get a chance to go through a second time before voting closes will receive a 5 from me, which seems fair enough. Before, any image I didn't reach a second time before close of voting received a 4, and this may have been a little harsh.
Robt. |
that's kind of what I do as well, but I don't like it, since I don't give the votes that I truly want to to images that I like, let alone find them again for comments... it still robs images of possible votes :)
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03/19/2005 02:44:12 PM · #12 |
Robt, I reconsidered your method, but I can't figure out one thing:
After you sorted the images, while your second run, you'll for sure hand out some 5 votes, don't you? If so, the amount of images in your 'to-comment-on' section will increase dramatically and you'll have to figure out once more which ones you actually wanted to comment on.
A system as suggested by me is not likely to be introduced very soon, if at all. Robt's system seems to be the most efiicient one (if there's a way around that heap of 5 scores).
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