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03/16/2005 03:18:44 PM · #1 |
What is everyone's thought of using the technique of taking a photo of another photo to apply their special outtake on a challenge?
The reason I ask is I have seen a couple shots that have used this method and I myself am not particularly a fan of the technique.
A good example is this weeks Surrealism winner Shannon who used a picture of a distorded moon for his submission. But at the same time I admire his creativity and the post work he still needed to do to get this effect the way it came out.
Another I believe is that Matrix shot where the picture is being ripped and a video card is being shown thru the ripped area.
They are so very creative, and yet I struggle with them as well simply because of the use of a photo within their photo. Maybe it might be the lack defined line on where you have crossed creativity to over abuse. How far can one go with this without it ending up with a "Photo of a Photo because I took it 3 weeks ago and want to submit for this challenge".
Just thought I'd get everyone elses thoughts on it. Does it bother you at all? Do you like the creativeness despite the use of another photo? Maybe you judge per photo if the technique was used properly? Share your thoughts!
P.S. I love the 2 photo's I mentioned above and ranked them accordingly because of the creativity that went into them, especially since I didn't know how they processed them during voting anyhow. But I have not decided which side of the fence I stand on with this particular technique yet so I do not apply to my voting standards.
Message edited by author 2005-03-16 19:42:16. |
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03/16/2005 03:43:50 PM · #2 |
| You are creating a new photo which includes an old photo as an element. It seems perfectly acceptable to me. |
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03/16/2005 03:46:52 PM · #3 |
| Doesn't bother me in the least as long as it's just another element and not the whole end result. |
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03/16/2005 03:50:22 PM · #4 |
Ditto to Zarniwoop and TechnoShroom...
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03/16/2005 03:57:33 PM · #5 |
I have similar misgivings, but I always resolve the conflict in my mind with the notion that pictures are as much a decent subject for photography as any other artform--that is, if it's not copied outright purely for the sake of reproduction.
For the sake of discussion, Jason, how do you feel about the photo below:
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03/16/2005 03:58:03 PM · #6 |
With respect to tthe rules, these do tread close to the line. If the art that's photographed is nearly the whole of the resulting work, in other words, we're being asked primarily to judge the art, not the photo, then it is a "literal representation of existing artwork" and is outside the rules. We do try to interpret this rule very narrowly, however, to allow for the type of creativity shown by scalvert in his ribbon-winning entry.
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03/16/2005 03:59:03 PM · #7 |
I like the way its done, I much prefer it to creating the same effect in PS.
I have done 1 photo using this method and its a lot harder than it looks.
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03/16/2005 07:40:49 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by bledford:
For the sake of discussion, Jason, how do you feel about the photo below:
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I have not seen this one yet! Very creative idea, quite amusing. But I do see a pencil standing on a piece of paper like anyone else might see. Which in this case I actually prefer to know and be able to distinguish this as a technique used by simply viewing the photo and not discover afterwards in the notes. Then again that might be what some people are trying to achieve. =o
Its probably just my desire to want a clean set defined line of using the technique, but not being able to obtain such and feeling left in the grey. I'll get over myself. You all have brought up some good points I will digest. Thx for your time! |
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03/16/2005 07:43:21 PM · #9 |
Here is what I was going to enter in the Surrealism Challenge. I couldn't get it to my liking. I took the photo in the background about a month ago. Printed it and used here.
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03/16/2005 07:54:41 PM · #10 |
I produced this image last year using standard photographic techniques. Both background and subject are real, shot with a single exposure in realtime. It did not score well because voters felt it had been 'photoshopped'.
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03/16/2005 07:58:31 PM · #11 |
I on the other side don't agree very much with this... i have already thought on that but never put it up on a thread... now i have a great picture and i want to submit i just snap a shot of it and post... ok it's existing artwork... but i would prefer to see things creative than that... sometimes you think out of the box and get ripped but having a photo compliting another one i just don't agree i fell like cheated but thats just me...
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03/16/2005 08:03:45 PM · #12 |
I have no problems with this technique. Only a bit of jealousy because some of these people are so much cleverer than I am :)
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