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 03/16/2005 11:48:44 AM · #176
You are totally right. Advertising targets both men and women in the same way and not in a good way I might add. Just like shoe commericals saying that "women you need these shoes..." and just like you said the car adds. The advertisers try to make people think that whatever they are selling is what everyone "needs" instead of what people truly need.

Yes everyone likes material things but, at least to me, the things I wrote that I want (to be loved, respected, needed etc...) are much more important that material things. If everyone(men and women) would stop and think about what truly matters to them it would make it much harder for advertisers to sell that way.

Ads in general make people think that all women buy tons of shoes and all that guys like is beer and boobies. Which in turn if you listen to them gives a bad misconseption of one anothers true wants.
 03/16/2005 01:12:17 PM · #177
But now that we are wise to their game it won't have an effect anymore right? RIGHT!?!

lol
 03/16/2005 01:15:17 PM · #178
i want eos 20d without having to pay too much :)
 03/16/2005 01:35:22 PM · #179
Well personally I don't buy a new truck just because an ad shows people that buy this truck are happy, have lots of friends, etc... and I know or should I say that I have learned that not all women buy tons of shoes, most of them but not all...lol(just kidding)

The ad game will never stop because it works 99% of the time on a majority of the people. People should at least try not to be infulenced by ads especially ones that say you should look like this or that. I hate all those ads for weight loss and say if you take this you can look like this or that and you will be happy etc... Yes I agree if you feel that you(not you personally, you look fine to me)have a weight problem then you should do something about it but not because of what ads are telling you. You should do it for you and again not because of what some ad is telling you you should look like or what society in general thinks. People need to think more for themselves.
 03/16/2005 01:49:10 PM · #180
Off the topic of men, but Oprah did a show a few weeks ago about how she recently lost all her weight by eating strictly and exercising vigorously everyday. Her and her trainer were standing on stage and they both said, and I quote "there is NO pill to make you skinny, NONE of that stuff works". And what was the first commercial that came on during the next break? TRIMSPA!!!!! (the pill Anna Nicole Smith is pitching). Actually, it was the show's sponsor.

*rolls eyes* What crap! Crap I say!
 03/16/2005 01:52:31 PM · #181
Thats what I'm talking about!!! I think they had those commericals on that show "The biggest loser" too.

Ok back to what men want...I must say thank you for the convo. continue..
 03/16/2005 01:57:11 PM · #182
My last boyfriend was the total opposite of what the "norm" would imply he should be. He grew up on a farm, works for a steel company, likes cars, sports stuff like that but is sooooo NOT a man's-man. He cried alot, wanted to be married and have kids, AND wanted to talk about his feelings all the time.

..remember the old "can't judge a book by its cover" bit.

03/16/2005 02:04:25 PM · #183
I fit that "can't judge a book by its cover" mold too. I can't say I want to talk about my feelings ALL the time but I am open with my feelings. I cry when I'm sad and when I'm extremely happy too, I don't think there is anything wrong with it, as long as its not all the time at the drop of a hat...lol.
Some of my ex's didn't like that fact that I was so open etc...they just wanted me to be the tough guy, which I am but not always. Like we said earlier we(men) are complicated.
 03/16/2005 02:12:41 PM · #184
I think at the end of the day the CLEVER woman is gonna tell the man what he wants!!(maybe somebody else has pointed it out before)
 03/16/2005 03:40:36 PM · #185
Originally posted by vivien:
I think at the end of the day the CLEVER woman is gonna tell the man what he wants!!(maybe somebody else has pointed it out before)


So the "manipulating women" DO exist. I only thought what it was just a theoritical idea that they put in place. Thought men would read through them. Thought a lot of things..... guess I was wrong!!


03/16/2005 03:47:12 PM · #186
From the start I wanted nothing and expected nothing. The main drive in my life has been to create windows in which time is at my disposal. Yes, I have been very blessed and have spent and spend countless hours enjoing music, art, literature and most important using time to great advantage. Well, perhaps this indulgence gives off a little waste, but then I am never bored.
 03/16/2005 03:53:26 PM · #187
Originally posted by graphicfunk:
From the start I wanted nothing and expected nothing. The main drive in my life has been to create windows in which time is at my disposal. Yes, I have been very blessed and have spent and spend countless hours enjoing music, art, literature and most important using time to great advantage. Well, perhaps this indulgence gives off a little waste, but then I am never bored.


So does this mean that you will give the rest of us a chance to place highly in the 'Bored' challenge by not having anything to submit?

I hope not, by the way...your submissions are always worth a good long viewing.
 03/16/2005 04:03:44 PM · #188
Thank you paul. I found your entry in Surreal a good display of humor.
This bore challenge may indeed prove to be a challenge for most because boredom is best described with humor. This may place it in your camp. No, I have not given it a thought.
 03/16/2005 05:56:34 PM · #189
I'm always drawn to moody photographs..esp. black and white.
I'm hoping for some in this next challenge. You may even see one from me! This time it may involve a man :-) it only seems fitting.
 03/16/2005 06:08:56 PM · #190
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
I'm always drawn to moody photographs..esp. black and white.
I'm hoping for some in this next challenge. You may even see one from me! This time it may involve a man :-) it only seems fitting.


Your photos seem to do better when you are included...anyone can speculate as to why.

Ha!
 03/16/2005 06:09:45 PM · #191
How come the what women want thread is so much shorter? I kinda need to know the answer! hehe
 03/16/2005 06:21:06 PM · #192
Originally posted by Konador:
How come the what women want thread is so much shorter? I kinda need to know the answer! hehe


Apparently, women want to discuss men.. and so do men!

I think the idea of "what women want" has been played out in all facets. BUt people seem to be disillusioned (sp?) with what MEN want. Back to the idea of advertising controlling social norms, people (okay, women) tend to think there's not that much to know about men. Unless we're dating them, sleeping with them, talking to them on the phone, emailing them, or faxing them, then we're confused as all heck.

So it comes down to women not understanding most men's predictable need for silence :-)

03/16/2005 06:23:43 PM · #193
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
Originally posted by Konador:
How come the what women want thread is so much shorter? I kinda need to know the answer! hehe


Apparently, women want to discuss men.. and so do men!

I think the idea of "what women want" has been played out in all facets. BUt people seem to be disillusioned (sp?) with what MEN want. Back to the idea of advertising controlling social norms, people (okay, women) tend to think there's not that much to know about men. Unless we're dating them, sleeping with them, talking to them on the phone, emailing them, or faxing them, then we're confused as all heck.

So it comes down to women not understanding most men's predictable need for silence :-)


Yep
 03/16/2005 06:24:17 PM · #194
Originally posted by Konador:
How come the what women want thread is so much shorter? I kinda need to know the answer! hehe

Sure... they don't know what they want. LOL.
 03/16/2005 06:29:37 PM · #195
Originally posted by carlos:
Originally posted by Konador:
How come the what women want thread is so much shorter? I kinda need to know the answer! hehe

Sure... they don't know what they want. LOL.


It's true!!!!! Completely undeniable. The same as everybody is different, so is it true that your needs and wants from any one particular individual are different. Plus, the idea that women are constantly multi-tasking and changing our minds is seemingly ingrained in new generations. Most women I know are proud of not knowing how to cook, for example. We like being all over the place - it makes us feel like men! ;-)
 03/17/2005 07:21:28 AM · #196
Originally posted by BeingClever:
Originally posted by notonline:
I free whenever you are. lol


PMing map to house now - note tonight is chili night!


Ok so I'm free friday, how's that sound???
 03/17/2005 07:26:33 AM · #197
Originally posted by notonline:

Ok so I'm free friday, how's that sound???


Perfect! From the looks of it we are already on the same schedule. Now while doing dishes. are you going to be wearing a cute maids outfit? *innocent smile*
 03/17/2005 07:29:10 AM · #198
Originally posted by BeingClever:
Originally posted by notonline:

Ok so I'm free friday, how's that sound???


Perfect! From the looks of it we are already on the same schedule. Now while doing dishes. are you going to be wearing a cute maids outfit? *innocent smile*


hahahahaha but of course... lol are you just getting up or home???

Message edited by author 2005-03-17 07:29:25.
 03/17/2005 07:29:26 AM · #199
I know it might sound stupid but I like how my gf is all over the place. We can be having a very serious convo one min and the next we will be laughing like crazy people. Men just have to accept that is how women are and love them for it. We(men) sometimes tend to get stuck on one thing at a time but if we are lucky we have a women to break us of this sometimes bad habbit.

When men are silent we are thinking on how to "fix" things, thats what we do. We want to fix everything. We have to learn that women don't always want us to "fix" things. When women talk to us its not that they are giving us a problem to solve they want to talk out loud to someone who will listen to them, just listen! then it makes them feel better and it lets them work out their problems on their own. GoldBerry am I on the right track with what I just said? This is just what I think I have learned but I could be wrong...lol.
 03/17/2005 07:30:23 AM · #200
Originally posted by Konador:
How come the what women want thread is so much shorter? I kinda need to know the answer! hehe

Because, whilst men claim that we're the ones who are complicated and inconsistent about what we want in a partner, it's evident that it's the men who haven't a clue.
We manage to elucidate it quite clearly, thanks!
;o)
He he he he!
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