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03/09/2005 10:49:59 AM · #1
This may seem pretty rudimentary, but it's been bugging me, so here's a quick question for all you PS gurus:

I've found that when I save down my raw images to JPG, they lose a lot of punch. That is, the colours kind of get less vibrant, and there appears to be less 'zing' to them.

Normally, I save down for the internet, meaning that I have to downgrade the quality to spare some file size (and by extension server space and bandwidth). Unless I'm going to print, I don't preserve all the quality. I expect that this may be the primary culprit.

BUT, the thing is, I have seen a lot of work on a lot of photo blogs, and checked out the file sizes for these images and lo and behold, they're no larger than mine in most cases, and yet retain all their punch. I'm wondering if I'm missing something here. Is there a 'best' way to save for the 'net? I'm willing to accept that "save for web" might not be the best way to... well... save for the web. And yet, I'm not sure that "save as..." works any better.

Anyone have any thoughts?
03/09/2005 12:05:58 PM · #2
What is probably going on is a color space issue. When you save for web, whatever color profile may have been assigned to the image is stripped off. The web assumes images are in sRGB. You should make sure that you convert to sRGB, then save for web. Is your camera set for a different color space perhaps, e.g. Adobe RGB?
03/09/2005 08:32:40 PM · #3
Actually, yes... my camera is set to Adobe RGB... but that's the only setting that isn't a custom one. There's no sRGB option.

If I do a conversion in PS, I'm assuming it's a good idea to do that before I do anything else?

Thanks for offering this bit of knowledge... that's really helpful. :)

Message edited by author 2005-03-09 20:33:20.
03/09/2005 08:40:07 PM · #4
Actually, you could wait to do the conversion until you are finished editing. You could save your original in lossless (or high-auality JPEG) in high resolution in Adobe RGB, then resize to DPC submission dimensions and finally convert to sRGB and save for web. That way, your hi-res version stays in the Adobe RGB color space, which has a larger gamut. You still could see some slight color shifts if there are colors in your photo that are in-gamut in Adobe RGB but out-of-gamut in sRGB. These shifts will tend to be quite minor compared to what you're seeing now.
03/09/2005 08:43:32 PM · #5
Thanks for all your help... that's quite kind of you and I appreciate it. I'll give it a go and see if I can recapture my 'zing' :)
03/09/2005 08:59:48 PM · #6
This has nothing to do with the topic, but I just bought a canon eos 20D and I was wondering if I should download the firmware update (12/5/2004) or if it's already up to date off the shelf. Anyone know?
03/09/2005 09:02:13 PM · #7
Originally posted by nfessel:

This has nothing to do with the topic, but I just bought a canon eos 20D and I was wondering if I should download the firmware update (12/5/2004) or if it's already up to date off the shelf. Anyone know?


It's not necesarily up to date off the shelf. Check the firmware version in the menu, and compare to what is posted on Canon's site.
03/09/2005 09:05:01 PM · #8
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by nfessel:

This has nothing to do with the topic, but I just bought a canon eos 20D and I was wondering if I should download the firmware update (12/5/2004) or if it's already up to date off the shelf. Anyone know?


It's not necesarily up to date off the shelf. Check the firmware version in the menu, and compare to what is posted on Canon's site.


Thanks for the help. I just cross-referenced my camera version with the website. It is up to date.
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