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03/10/2005 11:07:37 PM · #101 |
Originally posted by grahamp:
When compared head-to-head against PCs in a large series of Photoshop tests, the dual 2.5GHz, dual 2GHz, dual 1.8GHz and single 1.8GHz Power Mac G5 systems ran the 45 filters 98%, 82%, 66% and 20% faster, respectively, than the 3.4GHz Pentium 4-based system and 75%, 63%, 48% and 11% faster than the dual 3.2GHz Xeon-based system. (1) |
Yeah, impressive stats and from an unbiased source too! :)
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03/10/2005 11:43:17 PM · #102 |
... unbiased... no...
Apple picked the environment which best complements their products... complicated graphical processes - ie Photoshop... but isn't that the environment which initiated this forum thread in the first place?
Apple is biased to the creative environment - that's why their product set work best in such environments - film, video, design, graphics. The OS, hardware design and apps work best in this environment. If this forum was about terminal services, Citrix, banking... well Apple don't play in those spaces..
.. or have I missed somehting here?
Graham
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03/10/2005 11:55:17 PM · #103 |
Originally posted by colema19:
Originally posted by grahamp:
When compared head-to-head against PCs in a large series of Photoshop tests, the dual 2.5GHz, dual 2GHz, dual 1.8GHz and single 1.8GHz Power Mac G5 systems ran the 45 filters 98%, 82%, 66% and 20% faster, respectively, than the 3.4GHz Pentium 4-based system and 75%, 63%, 48% and 11% faster than the dual 3.2GHz Xeon-based system. (1) |
Yeah, impressive stats and from an unbiased source too! :) |
Try this one then.
The tests on the Apple page are old. These ar newer. The G5 gets edged out in several of the tests, but does better overall. What may suprise you is how well the Macs did in gaming.
Keep in mind what a Xeon or Opteron systen such as the ones being tested will cost you. Then consider that if you are running XP on these systems they will be nowhere near as stable at these speeds as the G5 will with OSX.
The Dell Precision Workstation 670 with dual 3.60GHz processors equipped like the one tested, and without sound card, speakers or monitor is $4,496 and the dual Opteron 252 set up the same way starts at about $4,500. So don't get the idea from these test results that you are going to be able to come close to anything in these tests with a $700 P4.
You can buy a dual 2.5GHz G5 for under $3000.
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03/11/2005 09:38:14 AM · #104 |
I think we should just agree to have some differences of opinion, although I don't think we're actually in that much disagreement. We're supposed to be here for photography anyway, so I apologize for my part in dragging things off into the eternally endless debate.
Original Poster:
The short of it is you won't automatically be making a bad choice no matter what you go with. There are benefits to both. I know that's a bit of a fence sitter answer, but it's really the truth these days. Things are good enough all the way around as you can see we resort to nitpicking details which for most people really aren't going to matter that much. It would be easier to help make recommendations if you can give more details about what kind of budget you've allocated and what your needs are(be it all Photoshop work or if there are other things you'd like to do).
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03/11/2005 12:26:07 PM · #105 |
i know this is not related to thread's scope but wanted to know this
I too feel Pc is unstable for imaging , love to go for apple but one thing i am confused i.e Is window an unstable os as compared to apple's os, if that is the case than can one go for Linux as OS or Apples is superior as result of it's hardware and OS as compared to PC with andy OS
reason i am asking because i am sick of PC and hardly have heard any mac user complaining and was thinking of shifting to mac in future but just felt what if i a buy a new PC but instead of windows use Linux , ( one can use Linux as OS right? not too sure )
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03/11/2005 12:40:29 PM · #106 |
Linux will work fine on a PC and is a very stable OS. Not many software producers cater to Linux (at the momment) so you would have trouble doing things the way you are used to doing them.
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03/13/2005 03:48:26 PM · #107 |
Originally posted by General:
i know this is not related to thread's scope but wanted to know this
I too feel Pc is unstable for imaging , love to go for apple but one thing i am confused i.e Is window an unstable os as compared to apple's os, if that is the case than can one go for Linux as OS or Apples is superior as result of it's hardware and OS as compared to PC with andy OS
reason i am asking because i am sick of PC and hardly have heard any mac user complaining and was thinking of shifting to mac in future but just felt what if i a buy a new PC but instead of windows use Linux , ( one can use Linux as OS right? not too sure ) |
Linux and Mc OS-X is almost the same OS, OS-X is based on UNIX and so is Linux, the Mac OS-X is just a lot more user friendly since you have to pay for MAC OS-X and the programs you want to use, but they are mostly free for Linux, thus the development of MAC OS-X and it´s programs gets a lot more programmers working fulltime then on Linux, those programs are mostly hobby creations of programmers working on other programs full time.
if you get a MAC you can´t be anything other than happy with it... unless you really like spending all those hours reinstalling, rebooting, bluescreens, viruscleaning, crashing, hardware failure, and oll that time with your computer on the table all apart trying to find out what the he%& went wrong this time...
I used to have a dual PIII 1000MHz workstation for my photoshop work, when it worked it was a great computer.. but that was only WHEN it worked, I spent about the same amount of time fixing problems in the computer as I did working in photoshop.
I got my G5 dual 2GHz 15 months ago and it´s been running ever since without problems, I´ve opened it twice, once to add memory and the second time to add a harddrive, never had any problems, crashes, bluescreens (windows only) hardware faliure or anything else, it just works :)
so now I can spend double the time working in photoshop at double the speed and NEVER loose my data becouse of system malfunction. |
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