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03/08/2005 05:11:36 PM · #1
I'd like to try to wring out the best possible performance from my kit lens for the lines challenge, so, dust spots or no, I'm planning to stop down to at least f/11. I'd like to take it to its limit (f/22-f/36?) but I've read that diffraction effects start to creep in when you stop all the way down.

I'm not too concerned about DoF, just best possible sharpness.

So, barring build differences, does anyone know the sweet spot for sharpness with the 18-55? Does it vary depending on focal length?

TIA,
Ara
03/08/2005 05:14:11 PM · #2
From my experience, the lens has no issues whatsoever being sharp. I'd say probably at 55 mm, it will be sharpest at around 6 and at 18mm should be sharpest around 4. The smaller the aperture really the less sharp it's going to be, but the more that will be in focus.

It depends what you're shooting. I've never shot anything smaller than f/11...that puts pretty much everything infront of you in focus. The only reason I could see doing it would be if there was a lot of light and you needed a slower shutter speed.
03/08/2005 05:15:36 PM · #3
I'd recommend messing around with it and use the DOF preview button before you hit the shutter.
03/08/2005 05:18:20 PM · #4
As a General rule lenses are sharpest stopped down 2 stops from their maximum aperture. For example if the biggest aperture of a given lens is f/2.8 it will be sharpest at f/5.6. There is also another saying "f/8 and be there".

Message edited by author 2005-03-08 17:18:46.
03/08/2005 05:28:47 PM · #5
Why not shoot some test shots of a fairly challenging subjects to see how sharp the images come out? I find the lens sufficiently sharp at f5.6-8 between 35-55mm and f8-11 at 18-35mm. Wide open aperatures and wide angles with this lens will not impress anyone, in my experience.

Originally posted by deapee:

It depends what you're shooting. I've never shot anything smaller than f/11...that puts pretty much everything infront of you in focus. The only reason I could see doing it would be if there was a lot of light and you needed a slower shutter speed.


And, as for never stopping down past f11, I find that sometimes since this lens can focus so closely, the DOF is too shallow even at f11 when zoomed all the way to 55mm.
03/08/2005 05:36:27 PM · #6
When I absolutely need the subject to be pin point sharp, and the dof is not a consideration, then f/8 is what I choose. Tri-pod mounted.
03/08/2005 05:41:33 PM · #7
deapee: Thanks, I didn't realize you sacrificed overall sharpness for a wider DoF with smaller apertures. But, the numbers you gave are almost wide open for that lens -- I thought lenses were never their sharpest wide open.

Zap228: Thanks, but it probably wouldn't work in this case b/c the lighting is terrible and the viewfinder image will go from bad to almost none. Also, I can barely tell if my subject is in focus on a bright sunny day let alone in difficult lighting. =]

doctornick: Thanks, that's kinda jibes with where I was going to start shooting. Where's the "f/8 and be there" from?

I guess I'll bracket the aperture and shoot a lot. =]
03/08/2005 05:41:35 PM · #8
bledford: Thanks. Yup, I think I'm going to end up shooting a lot and looking for differences with my face up against the screen - I was just hoping there was some "magic" number specifically for this lens -- "Shoot at f/9 with the 18-55, kid, and you'll always strike gold!" =] I know people here have gotten very nice (at least when resized) shots with it, but I haven't usually been too lucky with it.

Flash: Thanks, I think that will be my starting point.

Edited for those pesky internets

Message edited by author 2005-03-08 18:00:22.
03/08/2005 05:57:18 PM · #9
Originally posted by Zap228:

I'd recommend messing around with it and use the DOF preview button before you hit the shutter.


what?? the canon 300d has a DoF preview button? How could I have missed that? Where is it?
03/08/2005 06:53:25 PM · #10
Originally posted by utro:

Originally posted by Zap228:

I'd recommend messing around with it and use the DOF preview button before you hit the shutter.


what?? the canon 300d has a DoF preview button? How could I have missed that? Where is it?


It's below the lens release button. On the side of the barrel the lens locks into instead of the front like the lens release.

Check this link: //www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS300D/Images/allroundview.jpg
03/08/2005 07:00:31 PM · #11
Regarding the DOF preview button, its pretty good but you need good lighting for it to work well.

Message edited by author 2005-03-08 19:00:58.
03/08/2005 07:29:32 PM · #12
i've read the lens is sharpest at f:8
i've learned that tends to be with more distant subjects.

i've had good luck with it for close up work at anything under f:8


03/08/2005 07:31:24 PM · #13
Originally posted by BikeRacer:

deapee: Thanks, I didn't realize you sacrificed overall sharpness for a wider DoF with smaller apertures. But, the numbers you gave are almost wide open for that lens -- I thought lenses were never their sharpest wide open.


I was just going by what I've noticed. It makes sense though, a 50mm 1.8 is super sharp even at 1.8 as opposed to say a pinhole camera, right?
03/08/2005 09:39:59 PM · #14
Originally posted by BikeRacer:

deapee: Thanks, I didn't realize you sacrificed overall sharpness for a wider DoF with smaller apertures. But, the numbers you gave are almost wide open for that lens -- I thought lenses were never their sharpest wide open.


I'm not sure if that's necessarily accurate to say. That is, that you lose sharpness by making the aperture smaller. It's true that at apertures of f/22 or smaller, you're goign to be experiencing more light diffraction and thus a loss in sharpness. At the same time, f/5.6 at 55mm probably won't be the sharpest either (I forget the reason at the moment). I've often heard f/8-f/11 to be the sweet spot for a variety of lenses... as was mentioned by doctornick, the "f/8 and be there" saying is certainly believed and supported by many people as a general rule - especially if your subject is all within one plane of distance from the camera.

Message edited by author 2005-03-08 21:40:19.
03/08/2005 09:52:27 PM · #15
Put a newspaper on the wall fill the frame and shoot all apatures from wide open down. this is usually a good test for resolving power, Least ways when I was young
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