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03/08/2005 12:51:32 PM · #1 |
I was just wondering how many photos people vote on in any challenge.
When I vote which I vote in every challenge. I vote on all the images entered. Who would not vote on certain ones? I feel if I give certain photos votes and avoid other then I am cheating people of my vote. Why is it that you have to vote on at least 20% of the photos for your votes to count. Maybe it should be 100%. That way every photo is voted upon equally. Just wondering what other people thought about this.
Edited for stupidity!
Message edited by author 2005-03-08 13:13:01.
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03/08/2005 12:55:32 PM · #2 |
I used to love voting and commenting. I hardly do so anymore. I'm on voting burnout. I have received more comments than I have given out :(
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03/08/2005 12:57:04 PM · #3 |
I don't comment on every image usually just the ones that I voted low or high.
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03/08/2005 01:00:18 PM · #4 |
It would be ridiculous to require 100% voting. It was ridiculous in the beginning of the site, and the inventors of DPC knew that. Especially now, when some challenges get over 400 entries, dialup users would effectively be left out in the cold. Even using my DSL connection at work, I have to really bust it to vote on 200 images. If I tried to do it at home on dialup, I would not vote at all, or else I would just barely get in 20%.
We have to be realistic. Due to the random ordering of what each user votes on, different users may never see a certain image. I'm quite sure it's not an intentional effort to "not vote" on a certain image. |
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03/08/2005 01:02:02 PM · #5 |
I always vote on all entries to a challenge, I think it's important to see them all (when I started I didn't do that, but I do now).
I also like the feature that when you're done voting you can see how your votes sort out and I tend to tease a higher score out for the ones I really liked (so if I have five sevens, I pick my personal favorites and bump them up a bit more).
I understand that you can't force someone to vote for everything - in the Light on White there are over 400 entries - that's a bit daunting. It took me nearly five days of plugging away at it an hour here and there to get through all of them and only now am I getting to the comments (I try to comment on 10%, but probably won't make that on this challenge). I can see how someone might start voting but not finish before the end of the challenge (be it connection problems, forgetfulness or just lack of enthusiasm) - but the fact that they viewed those images and voted doesn't mean that should be thrown out.
I'm glad, Rex, that you take your voting responsibilities so seriously and I'm happy to know that there are conscientious voters out there (I know there are lots and I thank them for every vote, whether high or low).
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03/08/2005 01:03:24 PM · #6 |
I have voted on every single photo submitted on all but one of the challenges since I became a member on December 8th. I am so hooked on this that I actually look forward to voting, and seeing all the wonderful submissions made. I have not made very many comments however, as I do not feel competent enough to do so, but when I do, hang on to your hats.
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03/08/2005 01:04:28 PM · #7 |
I don't know if you're understanding those numbers. Those are not percentages, those are percentiles. A percentage is a portion of something (you got half of the problems right, or 50%). A percentile is a relative standing or placement in a group. A 50th %ile means you are in the middle of a group, half higher than you, half lower than you.
Your %ile scores show where your photograph placed in the voting results of a challenge. It says nothing about what percentage of voters voted in that challenge, or even how many voters voted on your image. |
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03/08/2005 01:09:50 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by strangeghost:
I don't know if you're understanding those numbers. Those are not percentages, those are percentiles. A percentage is a portion of something (you got half of the problems right, or 50%). A percentile is a relative standing or placement in a group. A 50th %ile means you are in the middle of a group, half higher than you, half lower than you.
Your %ile scores show where your photograph placed in the voting results of a challenge. It says nothing about what percentage of voters voted in that challenge, or even how many voters voted on your image. |
You are right. I guess my brain stopped functioning for a minute. It would still be interesting to know how many vote on all images though. My bad sorry.
Message edited by author 2005-03-08 13:26:09.
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03/08/2005 01:10:43 PM · #9 |
Right, strangeghost.
I was trying to work out how Rex came up with those numbers (good for you for looking at the profile page).
As far as I can tell, what you can know about your # of votes received is only in relation to the average # of votes received. I don't see where you can tell how many unique voters there were.
So, for example in Billboard, the avg. # of votes received was 218--I received 212, or my pic was slightly below the average as far as votes. My photo for Pink received 246 while the avg # received was 264--so I was far below the average. |
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03/08/2005 01:15:43 PM · #10 |
Another helpful way to gauge the number of votes you receive is to compare it with the number of entries in that challenge. I have found that, for challenges with a larger number of images (e.g., >300), my vote total is higher. Logically, it makes sense. More people with images entered feel a vested interest, and they turn out to vote. Smaller challenges (<120 or so, getting rarer these days), and my vote received total will be lower.
In general, I'd say that most people vote for most images in challenges they enter. A few vote on all the images, and a few vote on none. |
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03/08/2005 01:24:23 PM · #11 |
not everyone has time to give every image it's due viewing.
i would rather vote on some images, and give them a good looking over.
than try to squeeze more votes into the same amount of time.
everyones' images benefit more from a good long look than a 3 second glance....
Message edited by author 2005-03-08 13:24:50.
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03/08/2005 01:27:06 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by nards656:
It would be ridiculous to require 100% voting. It was ridiculous in the beginning of the site, and the inventors of DPC knew that. Especially now, when some challenges get over 400 entries, dialup users would effectively be left out in the cold. Even using my DSL connection at work, I have to really bust it to vote on 200 images. If I tried to do it at home on dialup, I would not vote at all, or else I would just barely get in 20%.
We have to be realistic. Due to the random ordering of what each user votes on, different users may never see a certain image. I'm quite sure it's not an intentional effort to "not vote" on a certain image. |
I forgot about the dial up user. Your point is taken and understood.
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03/08/2005 01:33:51 PM · #13 |
I used to vote on each and all images before there were 15.000 entries per challenge. Now, I try for the required 20% during some challenges.
No matter what percentage I vote on, I always view all entries. Since I'm inclined to weigh things carefully before I make a decision or commit to a view expressed in a comment, there is no way I can just view-click-vote-click and be done.
I prefer to vote (and comment) on the best images I can find - and occasionally on those which, IMO, should be seen. I do this, because I believe that a good photo is an inspiration and potential model. Pointing out obvious faults and/or a 'missed take' is not nearly as motivating and useful (or so I think).
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03/08/2005 02:00:15 PM · #14 |
I agree in theory about requiring 100% voting, but I understand that it just wouldn't work. I personally will not vote on a challenge unless I'm going to vote for all the images in the challenge. Also I will not vote on a challenge that has a topic that I personally can't stand, think is stupid or just not interested in (alot of those lately).
If you are like me and hate looking at pet photos for example, then why would you subject yourself (and your negative votes) to the challenge. |
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03/08/2005 02:05:05 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by hyperfocal:
...If you are like me and hate looking at pet photos for example, then why would you subject yourself (and your negative votes) to the challenge. |
Have you ever considered photographing your 'hates'? Perhaps, it would help you to jump your shadow and detach a little.
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03/08/2005 02:27:59 PM · #16 |
| For me, I don't give as many comments as I'd like too, but I'd rather make sure I vote on all the entries. Maybe when I get better and know what the hell I'm doing I'll give more feedback. |
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03/08/2005 02:30:15 PM · #17 |
I love votong on images and commenting, but I just do not have time I had a few months ago. I try to select one challenge a week and then view a minimum of 100 images on that challenge. I also try to view on 1/3 to 1/2 of the images I view. Sometimes I find a challenge really interesting and vote on all or almost all of the images or I find it very boring and then I vote on 20% and move on.
In reality, I do not remember the last time I voted on 100% of the images... just too much time on my dial up.
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