How will You be voting Ansel? - DPChallenge Forums

03/06/2005 07:25:52 PM · #26

Ansel was a very mooby person, though...

Robt.

jpochard

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

03/06/2005 07:53:47 PM · #27

Originally posted by bear_music:

Ansel was a very mooby person, though...

Robt.

*groan*

I just wish I had been given the gift of some interesting sky over the last three days (time I had available to shoot.) It's been either total cloud cover / overcast or just bright blue with no clouds. Hard to do a decent b/w with skies like that I think. Finally took a shot today with the bright deep blue sky, so at least it's not blown out, but just not very interesting. Photo turned out better than I thought it would, though.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR

03/06/2005 07:57:11 PM · #28

Originally posted by jpochard:

Originally posted by bear_music:
Ansel was a very mooby person, though...

Robt.

*groan*

I just wish I had been given the gift of some interesting sky over the last three days (time I had available to shoot.) It's been either total cloud cover / overcast or just bright blue with no clouds. Hard to do a decent b/w with skies like that I think. Finally took a shot today with the bright deep blue sky, so at least it's not blown out, but just not very interesting. Photo turned out better than I thought it would, though.

Plenty of great Adams images with featureless skies. Of course. most of them are in Yosemite (grin)... Here's one that's not:

//www.pas.rochester.edu/~tim/images/ansel%20adams%20tree.jpg

And here's a shot of El Capitan with a distinctly non-interesting sky...

//www.sfmoma.org/eschool/lessons/lesson_07.html

Robt.

Message edited by author 2005-03-06 20:04:32.

RulerZigzag

Nikon D750

03/06/2005 08:11:12 PM · #29

I spent days looking for interesting Landscapes or artifacts of nature. All of a sudden the other day, I took a shot of something I would never even consider shooting for this challenge, and was very pleased. I submitted a photo and never even left my home !

03/06/2005 08:16:11 PM · #30

Originally posted by RulerZigzag:

I hope it does well! I wandered up and down the Cape to little or no avail, and made my entry 150 yards from my home.

Robt.

jpochard

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

03/06/2005 08:25:53 PM · #31

Originally posted by bear_music:

Originally posted by jpochard:

Originally posted by bear_music:
Ansel was a very mooby person, though...

Robt.

*groan*

I just wish I had been given the gift of some interesting sky over the last three days (time I had available to shoot.) It's been either total cloud cover / overcast or just bright blue with no clouds. Hard to do a decent b/w with skies like that I think. Finally took a shot today with the bright deep blue sky, so at least it's not blown out, but just not very interesting. Photo turned out better than I thought it would, though.

Plenty of great Adams images with featureless skies. Of course. most of them are in Yosemite (grin)... Here's one that's not:

//www.pas.rochester.edu/~tim/images/ansel%20adams%20tree.jpg

And here's a shot of El Capitan with a distinctly non-interesting sky...

//www.sfmoma.org/eschool/lessons/lesson_07.html

Robt.

Thank you! That gives me hope :)

Travis99

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

03/06/2005 08:26:37 PM · #32

Originally posted by RulerZigzag:

I took 143 pictures today, I did not like any of them, I could not get the depth I wanted. So I did the same thing, when I got home I set up some lights and got a shot. I am very pleased with the photo, even if no one else is.

Good Luck To All.

Travis

vtruan

Nikon D5100

Tamron AF 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical for Nikon

03/06/2005 08:28:31 PM · #33

I will vote higher for great shots, but B&W is not out-of-the-box in this challenge, so I look forward to color shots, since I am out-of-the-box most of the time.

jpochard

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

03/06/2005 08:38:44 PM · #34

To answer the intitial question of how I will vote: I will be looking for an over all "impact" of clarity and subject. Several have said that AA liked a higher contrast finish. I think it was more a richness and deepness of tones, not just contrast. If the entry is higher contrast, but loses detail, then it will lose points.

I will give more flexibility in subject matter, but still will be looking for subjects that I think he might have chosen to shoot. I realize that's pretty subjective and difficult to define, but it seems he chose subjects - both of nature, portraits, and otherwise - that drew the viewer to look more than once at the photo. Much of this will have to do more with the composition than the subject I think.

Hope this is helpful! Good luck to everyone.

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

03/06/2005 08:38:55 PM · #35

Originally posted by vtruan:

I will vote higher for great shots, but B&W is not out-of-the-box in this challenge, so I look forward to color shots, since I am out-of-the-box most of the time.

What do you mean by "...but B&W is not out-of-the-box..."? Do you mean that in a manner of thinking outside the box, doing something atypical? Or, do you mean ..."out-of-the-box..." as in an image that has not been post-processed?

03/06/2005 08:44:32 PM · #36

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by vtruan:
I will vote higher for great shots, but B&W is not out-of-the-box in this challenge, so I look forward to color shots, since I am out-of-the-box most of the time.

What do you mean by "...but B&W is not out-of-the-box..."? Do you mean that in a manner of thinking outside the box, doing something atypical? Or, do you mean ..."out-of-the-box..." as in an image that has not been post-processed?

He means B/W is what the challenge calls for, so out-of-the-box would be NOT B/W, and apparently he's gonna score color shots high for bravery. Where was he when I shot a raindrop and called it a self-portrait?

Robt.

Truegsht

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Tamron AF 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical for Nikon

03/06/2005 08:50:33 PM · #37

worried!!!! my exif data shows my submission dated 3/5/2006. if this will dq me..let me know fast so I can take the photo out of voting..

thanks

vtruan

Nikon D5100

03/06/2005 08:56:45 PM · #38

Adams was most famously known for B&W landscape photography, especially to non-photography types. So imitation is great, but if someone choses a colored shot, I will not reduce my scoring. I could care less about digital darkrooming, as long as the final product creation is a great shot.

Also, this sight has some folks who are so left-brained or by the book that anything not meeting, in their view, the challenge discription gets a 1 or 2. I think their was discussion on the billboard challenge; where some folks receivedcomments that their photo size didn't meet size suggested for the challenge. I've seen many highway billboards that are atypical of this size.

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

03/06/2005 09:05:46 PM · #39

Originally posted by Truegsht:

worried!!!! my exif data shows my submission dated 3/5/2006. if this will dq me..let me know fast so I can take the photo out of voting..

thanks

If your date isn't correct and your image gets challenged/questioned, then yes - you're toast (dq'd). I'm pretty sure the rules are screwed down pretty tight on this one.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

03/06/2005 09:07:56 PM · #40

Originally posted by Truegsht:

worried!!!! my exif data shows my submission dated 3/5/2006. if this will dq me..let me know fast so I can take the photo out of voting..

thanks

It will if there's a DQ request and you have to send in the original. That's why the rules specifically mention checking the camera's date setting before shooting for a challenge. You could still post the photo for comments in the inevitable "out-takes" thread.

Sorry, but thanks for checking first!

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

03/06/2005 09:11:00 PM · #41

Originally posted by vtruan:

Great - Thanks for the clarification. As for the challenge itself and B/W vs Color - colors ok I guess, but I certainly hope color images don't score highly myself. Personal choice, but I feel that a good color image is going to have an unfair advantage against the same quality B/W. Color by itself leads to a more stunning first impression. First impressions for voting on challenges is very important. Most images get only a 2 or 3 second look during the voting process.

The challenge doesn't say the image MUST be B/W...but it certainly is insinuated.

Truegsht

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

03/06/2005 09:12:18 PM · #42

Well, I unsubmitted it. It would not have done very well anyway. I liked the photo, so that is the only thing that mattered to me.

Message edited by author 2005-03-06 21:13:26.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

03/06/2005 09:19:22 PM · #43

Originally posted by Truegsht:

I liked the photo, so that is the only thing that mattered to me.

That's the spirit! Maybe you'll feel like posting it later ...

alanfreed

Nikon Z9

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

03/06/2005 09:21:48 PM · #44

The irony is that my neighbors have a three-legged dog, and I didn't realize that was one of Ansel's pieces until today!

Originally posted by nshapiro:

I am looking for three legged dogs. Anything else gets a one ;)

les0910

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

03/06/2005 09:27:54 PM · #45

I'm going to be pretty generous with my votes on this one. Effort will get high marks, this was a tough challenge. I really tried to get something that looked like Adams' work, but I couldn't do it, I'm sitting this one out. If you're curious, here is my best effort.

I'm really looking forward to seeing what everyone came up with.

Telehubbie

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

03/06/2005 09:29:05 PM · #46

What kind of sucks here is the size factor. Most submissions are probably wide-angle landscapes, and at 640 it kind of limits a lot. It's hard to see small small details in landscapes at that resolution, I know mine looks much better bigger at least. Take a postcard of one of Ansel's photos, looks nice. But the when you see a poster of it and you can see the small details and say "Wow!"

-Just my 2 bits

Message edited by author 2005-03-06 21:34:30.

graphicfunk

Canon EOS-20D

03/06/2005 09:43:24 PM · #47

If Ansel was alive he would refuse to enter this challenge for the following reasons:

Not all monitors are calibrated. A slightly darker setting will shift all the zones down about a notch. A lighter setting will shift things up one notch. With these examples, the 1st and 10th zone go bye bye.

Then consider the mishmash with the remaining zones. Then there is that current technology which only allows a fixed amount of pixels to render the image. Then there is the size. You can work your image to perfection and only a handful of voters will see only a good taste of the image. The others will just see varying degrees.

Ansel would say, I'll sit this one out. lol

Truegsht

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi