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03/01/2005 07:54:32 AM · #151 |
This: //www.cicada.com/pub/photo/zs/ is a great resource. Somebody may have already shared it; I never read the entire post, sorry.
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03/01/2005 02:19:42 PM · #152 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by xtabintun:
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Cream has a tendency to rise to the top. |
When did Eric Clapton become involved? I'm so confused. |
Maybe they've bundled his "Layla" ringtone with an Adams startup screen for your cell phone. |
Hey, let's keep it consistent. We're talking about Cream... Layla was by Derek and the Dominos. |
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03/01/2005 02:26:08 PM · #153 |
Originally posted by xtabintun:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by xtabintun:
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Cream has a tendency to rise to the top. |
When did Eric Clapton become involved? I'm so confused. |
Maybe they've bundled his "Layla" ringtone with an Adams startup screen for your cell phone. |
Hey, let's keep it consistent. We're talking about Cream... Layla was by Derek and the Dominos. |
Ok, White Room then.
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03/01/2005 02:34:53 PM · #154 |
The only Ansel Adams'ish thing I have.
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03/01/2005 03:24:43 PM · #155 |
Originally posted by scottwilson:
Originally posted by nsbca7:
To be ignorant is not a crime. In fact it̢۪s quite socially acceptable; everyone is ignorant on at least one subject. But to wallow in ignorance, especially when it involves something that is of interest, a hobby or a future career is reprehensible. |
I did not know that. |
HA!HA! |
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03/01/2005 04:30:32 PM · #156 |
drool
so i was doing some shooting today and this is what i came up.........
ok, ok i'm lying lol like u even thought......
anyway good luck all not sure i will submit since i respect the man so much i don't think i could ever touch his mind let alone get a ribon out of it....it will be fun to mess with and if i don't submit i will post my attemps.
_brando_
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03/01/2005 04:43:51 PM · #157 |
| Hey Im having a hard time getting a good biographical website on Ansel Adams. I was curious about him after finding out who he was when the challenge was introduced. I wondered...what made him the best? Of course, he must of traveled a million miles in his lifetime to capture those amazing landscapes, but what was his technique? his trademarks? I heard he was the first to shoot at Apertures as small as F 22 |
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03/01/2005 04:52:14 PM · #158 |
Well... there is a website in his name:
Ansel Adams
And on that site... there was this Bio:
Ansel Adams Bio
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03/01/2005 05:00:51 PM · #159 |
Originally posted by RulerZigzag:
Hey Im having a hard time getting a good biographical website on Ansel Adams. I was curious about him after finding out who he was when the challenge was introduced. I wondered...what made him the best? Of course, he must of traveled a million miles in his lifetime to capture those amazing landscapes, but what was his technique? his trademarks? I heard he was the first to shoot at Apertures as small as F 22 |
'the best' is a relative term with different meaning to everyone.
To me, he is the essence of what we do. He just had the ability to please everyone (almost?).
Joe
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03/01/2005 05:14:27 PM · #160 |
What made him "the best"? Well, first of all "best" is stretching it. Is he "better" than Cartier-Bresson, to list only one example of a photographer whose lifespan more or less overlapped Ansel's?
But still, taking it on face value, I'd say, in a nutshell: "integrity of vision combined with purity of technique." Nobody ever did what he did better, and I doubt anyone ever will.
What makes him "popular"? That's easy enough; his subject matter touches a wellspring in most of us. We almost all have a yearning to "touch the earth", and Ansel fulfilled that need in us. His images show the wilderness, the natural world, as we want it to be; grand and inspiring and luminous.
Those of you who've been to Yosemite know exactly what I mean; it's really just another valley, nice rocks, nice waterfalls. Maybe the best valley, best rocks, best waterfalls, maybe, but still, it's just a "place", a wonderful place. Go to some of the vantage points from which Ansel shot, and really look at what's there to be seen. Kind of deflating, isn't it, if you've seen his images beforehand? He made that valley, indeed he made anywhere he went, into a luminous place apart, and huge numbers of us respond to that with all our heart and soul.
For an example of a very accomplished photographer, very famous even, who also had utter mastery of technique (in this case, color) and who also dealt almost entirely with the natural world, who in every way except the emotional is Ansel's equal, check out Eliot Porter. Wonderful work, simply wonderful. Any of us would be proud to have made those images. But it just doesn't have the sustained, luminous, exalting pitch of Ansel's body of work.
The man was an Artist.
Robt.
Message edited by author 2005-03-01 17:15:30.
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03/01/2005 05:48:51 PM · #161 |
Oh cool !
Ansel Adams : 
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03/01/2005 05:51:01 PM · #162 |
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03/01/2005 05:52:16 PM · #163 |
Originally posted by Dim7:
Really nice Kosta Adams! |
Thanks ! I didn't know that guy have similar taste as me :-) |
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03/01/2005 06:03:08 PM · #164 |
I'm probably going to submit for this challenge too, though I have a bit to learn about Adams' style and certainly his technique:
Taken months ago but processed specifically to appear in the style of AA
Taken years ago and not aiming for AA's style, just a BW conversion I liked. |
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03/01/2005 06:22:31 PM · #165 |
Originally posted by fotodude:
drool
so i was doing some shooting today and this is what i came up.........
ok, ok i'm lying lol like u even thought......
anyway good luck all not sure i will submit since i respect the man so much i don't think i could ever touch his mind let alone get a ribon out of it....it will be fun to mess with and if i don't submit i will post my attemps.
_brando_ |
This is 3000 x 2402 pixels. Looking at it at 100% you can see the grain, scratches and other imperfections. Very cool. I'm gonna save this one.
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03/01/2005 06:57:03 PM · #166 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
...Those of you who've been to Yosemite know exactly what I mean; it's really just another valley, nice rocks, nice waterfalls. Maybe the best valley, best rocks, best waterfalls, maybe, but still, it's just a "place", a wonderful place. Go to some of the vantage points from which Ansel shot, and really look at what's there to be seen. Kind of deflating, isn't it, if you've seen his images beforehand? He made that valley, indeed he made anywhere he went, into a luminous place apart, and huge numbers of us respond to that with all our heart and soul. |
Another photographer who I think followed many of the same principles and philosophy (but mostly in color photos) is the late Galen Rowell. |
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03/01/2005 07:10:11 PM · #167 |
Yes, yes yes yes to Galen Rowell. Oddly, I knew him too. The husband of one of my best friends is a mountaineer of some renown..
Re: the "imperfections" on the large Adams image, just be aware those are imperfections of the SCAN, not the photo. The photo is pristine. I know, I printed that one once :-)
Robt.
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03/01/2005 07:15:02 PM · #168 |
You would find that many of Adam's photographs would not do well at DPC.
His most famous works are pioneering photography for the early to mid 20th century and, as such, suffer from grain and quality issues that would be criticized resulting in low scores at DPC. Technology has come a long way since then.
Heida and dsidwell would beat him hands down.
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03/01/2005 07:21:45 PM · #169 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
You would find that many of Adam's photographs would not do well at DPC.
His most famous works are pioneering photography for the early to mid 20th century and, as such, suffer from grain and quality issues that would be criticized resulting in low scores at DPC. Technology has come a long way since then.
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I don't think you will find quality issues with any of Adams' works. You may need to look closer if you think a digital printer has anything on what he was doing in the darkroom.
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03/01/2005 07:26:01 PM · #170 |
Originally posted by BradP:
Oh I have been waiting soooo long for this one!
Thanks!! |
I trip to Borego this weekend might be in order... :)
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03/01/2005 07:44:50 PM · #171 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by stdavidson:
You would find that many of Adam's photographs would not do well at DPC.
His most famous works are pioneering photography for the early to mid 20th century and, as such, suffer from grain and quality issues that would be criticized resulting in low scores at DPC. Technology has come a long way since then.
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I don't think you will find quality issues with any of Adams' works. You may need to look closer if you think a digital printer has anything on what he was doing in the darkroom. |
Tell me, do you think this image would score high at DPC?
Possible Ansel Adams DPC Entry
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03/01/2005 07:55:05 PM · #172 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by stdavidson:
You would find that many of Adam's photographs would not do well at DPC.
His most famous works are pioneering photography for the early to mid 20th century and, as such, suffer from grain and quality issues that would be criticized resulting in low scores at DPC. Technology has come a long way since then.
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I don't think you will find quality issues with any of Adams' works. You may need to look closer if you think a digital printer has anything on what he was doing in the darkroom. |
Tell me, do you think this image would score high at DPC?
Possible Ansel Adams DPC Entry |
What that print looks like hanging on a wall and what it looks like after someone re-photographed it, scanned it and uploaded it to the internet are world apart. I have seen Adams' works in museums and I will tell you truthfully that they lack nothing.
You are right on the point that that image would not do well here on DPC, but I would hardly consider DPC a true bellweather for what passes as great photography in the real world.
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03/01/2005 08:02:50 PM · #173 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
Re: the "imperfections" on the large Adams image, just be aware those are imperfections of the SCAN, not the photo. The photo is pristine. I know, I printed that one once :-)
Robt. |
I have no doubt it was scan related. You say you printed this once. This particular file? Or an actually print from Adams' negative? Didn't you say you worked with him at one point? You should tell us more about your association with him, if this isn't being too forward. It would be nice to hear about him from someone who actually knew him as opposed to biographies and what not.
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03/01/2005 08:08:47 PM · #174 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
What that print looks like hanging on a wall and what it looks like after someone re-photographed it, scanned it and uploaded it to the internet are world apart. I have seen Adams' works in museums and I will tell you truthfully that they lack nothing.
You are right on the point that that image would not do well here on DPC, but I would hardly consider DPC a true bellweather for what passes as great photography in the real world. |
You are probably right because that one sure looks crappy! :) But it seems unlikely that someone would add grain to the picture, especially an art gallery that was selling reprints.
It happens that much of Adam's original works are archived down at the University of Arizona. That is not all that far from where I live. It is my understanding that with special permission you can gain access to view the actual originals. I'd like to see some of them sometime. That would be a major treat.
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03/01/2005 08:11:35 PM · #175 |
Originally posted by xtabintun:
Hey, let's keep it consistent. We're talking about Cream... Layla was by Derek and the Dominos. |
Derek and the Dominos was Bobby Whitlock, Carl Radle, Jim Gordon and Eric Clapton. Duane Allman sat in when they recorded the double album "Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs" in 1970, which was about all they really did. Clapton went into seclusion because of his heroin addiction and Allman was killed in a motorcycle accident. Some live tracks and studio outtakes were released latter and sent a long version of the title song up the charts.
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