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02/25/2005 01:42:10 PM · #26 |
| I wish I could add this forum to my favorites. Beautifully stated. |
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02/25/2005 01:44:41 PM · #27 |
for once, i'm siding with Lori :)
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
you lost me after "The.."
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02/25/2005 01:53:17 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by Jacko:
I dunno. I find DPC to be an nice mix. The folks at DPreview are way too technical ... not sure if they actually take photos. |
Agreed. Plus, there are too many labels in the world as is. The original post labels "left brain" "right brain" and makes it obvious one is better than the other: one is a better artist than the other. Stereotypes kill.
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02/25/2005 02:02:29 PM · #29 |
Would you happen to be related to Thomas Robinson (aka Zoomdak)?
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02/25/2005 02:04:35 PM · #30 |
Yeah, I didn't get most of that. I don't think of my photography as spiritually invloved...
How do you suggest I apply this to studio photography? I can't think of how to apply it at all... |
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02/25/2005 02:10:10 PM · #31 |
Learning and experiencing how to unite the subjective with the universal would probably be a spiritual artisitic venture but it would be one that you'd have to undertake on your own and find your own path on.
Originally posted by Plexxoid:
Yeah, I didn't get most of that. I don't think of my photography as spiritually invloved...
How do you suggest I apply this to studio photography? I can't think of how to apply it at all... |
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02/25/2005 02:45:33 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
you lost me after "The.."
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LOL! I love you, you literalist. :)
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02/25/2005 02:50:12 PM · #33 |
Groovy post! I can't agree more. It seems almost sacrilege to bring up voting, but when I vote, the 9s and 10s go to the photos that display qualities that Charliebaker describes.
Message edited by author 2005-02-25 14:50:48.
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02/25/2005 02:50:37 PM · #34 |
i couldn't agree more man...........
wonderfuly stated
_brando_
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02/25/2005 04:07:55 PM · #35 |
| A post that I believe everyone of use should read. Well done, your art goes beyound photographs and into words. |
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02/25/2005 04:17:13 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by charliebaker:
THE OTHER RULE OF THIRDS
I love the way Ansel Adams puts it: "Photography is more than a medium for factual communication of ideas. It is a creative art."
Tech-heads love to talk about white-balance, shutterspeed and ISO settings as though they are what puts the blush on the rose. You are mistaken.
I̢۪ve been amused at the sheer numbers of literal thinkers
For all you thinkingonlyinsidethebox, conventional, factualists: I̢۪m delighted you̢۪re still reading this post. Photography, in its finest moments, is not about physics, but metaphysics. The real Rule of Thirds is not about literal composition, but about lateral (symbolic or metaphorical) composition. Let̢۪s get off the pedestrian asphalt sidewalk and head out across the open wildflower field of symbolism.
Adams speaks of this realm with great clarity, unveiling the universal appeal of photography: "To photograph truthfully and effectively is to see beneath the surfaces and record the qualities of nature and humanity which live or are latent in all things."
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I'm lost or this thread is lost on me. I understand what the author was trying to get across, but I am wondering about the vehicle he used to do that. Do any of you know who Ansel Adams was and what it was he stood for? He criticized other Photographers for such unforgivable sins as experimental composition and soft focus. He was the driving force behind the f/64 movement which called for technical excellence before anything else.
I think you make a good point and I say I agree at least in part with what you have put forth, but to use Adams̢۪ name the as an example for this line of thought does not carry well.
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02/25/2005 04:26:02 PM · #37 |
I was hoping someone else would say this, I feel weird being the "interpreter" of Ansel for the site, LOL. It's a very odd match indeed, to use Ansel as the poster boy for untrammeled artistic freedom of vision. He was perhaps the most organized, focused, precise great photographer on the planet. He believed that only through achieving technical mastery coudl you free your vision to thrive.
The only area in which all of this rings true is that Adams did, in fact, NOT believe that technical competence could substitute for artistry of vision. This is definitely true. Just as a musician must become competent at his/her exercises, so they can be performed intuitvely, in order to fully express a musical vision, so must a photographer be technically accomplished to be able to create what s/he has seen.
And yes, the "telling point" is that Ansel never spoke of "taking" pictures, but of "making" them. There's a world of difference in that one letter...
Robt.
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02/25/2005 04:46:19 PM · #38 |
| What I'm getting out of this is that the making one of opposites in a photograph becomes art and not just a literal recording of reality. By using the objective (technical aspects of photography) to unite the subjective and universal it becomes more of a spiritual endeavor. The process of seeing specificity within the universal and the general within the individual and then being able to express it technically through the photograph, because the artist/photographer has transcended the the seperation of artist and subject and become one with it. It's a zen/tao thing. Like the archer who at the same time sees both the arrow's flight and target in the same action. |
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02/26/2005 01:56:19 AM · #39 |
Thanks for an enlightening discussion in response to my DPC newbie post. I appreciate the input, the questions, the interaction, the clarification of my ramblings. bear_music says it so much better than I did,with a lot fewer words. Thanks Robert for the response and clarity of your post!
Here's to mastering all the technical excellence possible on the objective level while pursuing the intangibles at those elusive other layers. Meet you in the next challenge.
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02/26/2005 02:01:40 AM · #40 |
In this life we cannot do great things. We can only do small things with great love. --Mother Teresa
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02/26/2005 02:03:43 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by charliebaker:
Thanks for an enlightening discussion in response to my DPC newbie post. I appreciate the input, the questions, the interaction, the clarification of my ramblings. bear_music says it so much better than I did,with a lot fewer words. Thanks Robert for the response and clarity of your post!
Here's to mastering all the technical excellence possible on the objective level while pursuing the intangibles at those elusive other layers. Meet you in the next challenge. |
Thanks for posting it. I think you said it well. |
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