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03/25/2003 01:03:58 AM · #26 |
[quote=Maverick
Woo hoo, I have an obtuse interpretation of the subject! My score is 3.6 something, and probably dropping, oh well. Keep on trying I guess.[/quote]
Yeah, I have to agree, my entry is at 3.5 something and dropping. Not a clock but it was the first thing I thought of when I saw "Time" as the challenge.
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03/25/2003 04:14:47 AM · #27 |
[quote=rainbow]Complaining of photographs of clocks in a challenge titled Time is similar to complaining of photographs of bridges in a challenge called Bridges. [quote]
Er ... it isn't really. It's like complaining about lots of photos of Bridges in a challenge called rivers. If the challenge had been called clocks ...
Ed
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03/25/2003 07:15:13 AM · #28 |
Not only a huge amount of pictures of clocks, sandglasses etc but also a lot of pictures of very poor quality. Not sharp, bad composition, flat light, just a poor picture of a clock, nothing more.
Went through all pictures and find only some 10% which really have something special, which I vote above 5.
Willem
Originally posted by e301:
Did I miss the bit that said take a photo of a clock? I thought there was the posibility of a huge range of expression here, and am really quite disappointed in what I've seen so far. True though, there are some good photos - of clocks.
Ed
PS. Despite my rapidly plummeting score, I reamin pleased that I didn't submit a shot of a clock. Or watch, for that matter. |
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03/25/2003 08:30:10 AM · #29 |
As per my Franklin Language Master (Merriam-Webster)
time:
1. time (noun)
times;
1: period during which something exists or continues or can be accomplished.
2: point at which something happens
3: customary hour
4: age
5: tempo
6: moment, hour, day, or year as indicated by a clock calendar
7: one's experience during a particular period
(verbs, etc., etc.,)
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clock:
1. clock (noun)
clocks;
:timepiece not carried on the person
(verb)
clocked; clocking; clocks;...etc. |
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03/25/2003 08:56:24 AM · #30 |
I didn't post a picture of a clock, I posted a picture that i'm not sure everyone things meets the challenge, but i'm happy with it, especially because when I took the picture I knew that it would be different from other pictures in the challenge. :)
And yes, I think it's sad how many pictures of clocks where posted |
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03/25/2003 10:52:18 AM · #31 |
I really didn't want to post a picture of a clock. Obviously time is not some physical object that we can take a picture of so I tried to get a picture of the ultimate effect that time has. I guess people thought it was only average. I thought it was a good pic. Funny thing is that I though my pic for the "from above" challenge was my best one ever but very few people seem to agree with me on that one. Even though these pics of mine aren't doing all that great, I am very happy with them and that is what counts the most for me.
Greg
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03/25/2003 11:43:54 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by aui:
And yes, I think it's sad how many pictures of clocks where posted |
Oh gimme a break with the "I'm a creative artiste" attitude.. I think the sad part is that there were un-interesting pictures of clocks/watches, not that fact that there were clock pictures in a challenge called "TIME". The key is to try to take an interesting photo. If it's of a clock, so be it!
I think it's pathetic that some people are trying so damn hard to be "creative" and "artsy" that their photos can only be understood if you read the title above them. Now that's sad.. |
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03/25/2003 01:38:13 PM · #33 |
When I was thinking of the subject for this challenge, a number of things, including people waiting, hourglasses, clocks, etc popped into my head.
However, what I took as my inspiration was this photo by Robert Doisneau. It portrays the concept of time to me better than any other photo out there. It does it without the title, though I can see how some people might not understand it.
However, I thinking having a good title plays a large role in getting the photographers intent across for those who want instant gratification.
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03/25/2003 01:43:37 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by mbardeen:
When I was thinking of the subject for this challenge, a number of things, including people waiting, hourglasses, clocks, etc popped into my head.
However, what I took as my inspiration was this photo by Robert Doisneau. It portrays the concept of time to me better than any other photo out there. It does it without the title, though I can see how some people might not understand it. -Matt |
Agreed, that photo is great for this challenge.. |
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03/25/2003 01:50:39 PM · #35 |
Have you ever seen the out-takes of that photo? He took that couple all over Paris - they must have been seriously either in love or hating each other by the end.
Joebar ... no, I won't rise to the bait. Suffice to say that there is a rant forum available here.
Ed
PS. I didn't shoot a clock for this challenge because I thought there would be quite a few clock/watch shots entered, and after all those bridges I thought some more variety would be appreciated, perhaps. Actually I did shoot a clock, but I didn't enter that shot. I couldn't at first see past the idea of a timepiece as representing the challenge, but as soon as I considered phrases like 'time of day' or 'the time of your life' or 'springtime' (as a couple of others did), the range seemed quite wide enough.
That's prehaps a better explanation of what I meant.
Message edited by author 2003-03-25 13:56:43.
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03/25/2003 04:38:47 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by e301:
Joebar ... no, I won't rise to the bait. Suffice to say that there is a rant forum available here. |
laff.. Maybe this thread of complaints about clocks in a time challenge should be moved over there then.
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03/25/2003 04:40:33 PM · #37 |
Tell me that photo of the clock in the desert wasn't creative.
Message edited by author 2003-03-25 16:55:42. |
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03/25/2003 07:09:10 PM · #38 |
Some photographers had very creative ways to convey a sense of time. There are many excellant "time" images that did not have clock in sight.
I predict that at least two of the top three images this week will not have a clock in it, maybe all three, and that is saying something considering there are dynamite clock images in this collection.
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03/25/2003 08:01:02 PM · #39 |
I am a sensitive artist.
Nobody understands me because I am so deep.
In my work I make allusions to books that nobody else has read,
Music that nobody else has heard,
And art that nobody else has seen.
I can't help it
Because I am so much more intelligent
And well-rounded
Than everyone who surrounds me.
I stopped watching tv when I was six months old
Because it was so boring and stupid
And started reading books
And going to recitals
And art galleries.
I don't go to recitals anymore
Because my hearing is too sensitive
And I don't go to art galleries anymore
Because there are people there
And I can't deal with people
Because they don't understand me.
I stay home
Reading books that are beneath me,
And working on my work,
Which no one understands
I am sensitive...
I am a sensitive artist...
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03/25/2003 08:28:41 PM · #40 |
What I've noticed about many of the shots this week is the amount of "experimentation" there has been. Many clocks are blurry, but for good reason and have become some of my favorites. There has also been some playing around with color, perspective, etc. I think it's been fun to see your good work.
David
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03/25/2003 10:46:58 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by joebar:
Oh gimme a break with the "I'm a creative artiste" attitude.. I think the sad part is that there were un-interesting pictures of clocks/watches, not that fact that there were clock pictures in a challenge called "TIME". The key is to try to take an interesting photo. If it's of a clock, so be it!
I think it's pathetic that some people are trying so damn hard to be "creative" and "artsy" that their photos can only be understood if you read the title above them. Now that's sad.. |
Now that is sad to read in a photography comunity like this. The problem here is that people have to vote on so many pictures every week, that your vision gets overwhelmed. So many voters, specially in challenges like this, become single minded when viewing so many repetitive shots. When they see something different, they tend to discard it. And more so, when voting actually takes about two seconds to do.
And I don't exclude myself from this, as I've learned this with my own experience in DPC. Sometimes we vote so fast, that we don't get to really analyze a picture. Whether it be by voting at work, or having little time at the computer, or being sunday night before the results.
For the Time challenge, I didn't do a clock piece, but not because it's bad, but for my personal reason to do something different this time from the obvious choice. Not only my picture seems to be depreciated because of the subject, but because of the placement of my subject in the frame. I'm getting comments like: "the subject should be centered!".
I was talking about this in my photography course that I'm taking, and the teacher explained that (aside from casual photographers tending to put everything dead in the center) our minds have images that have been "programmed" so hard in our brains by our exposure to media throughout our lives (print, tv, movies, etc). And when you see such subjects your brain tends to expect certain "compositions", so that when you look at them you see them "wrong".
I'll explain more about this with the clear example of my picture, after the challenge is over. I even expected this kind of comments, but not a score barely above the 5.0 mark. The frustrating thing is that I have tons of other pictures I took that same day of the same subjects and with the "common" compositions. But, in my opinion, don't look so well, or as joebar said, they're not so "artsy" or creative or original.
Well, I'll rant more over this after the challenge is over.
Thanks for reading.
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03/25/2003 11:35:11 PM · #42 |
Understand I'm not putting down creativity at all! You have to have an interesting photo to win. BUT, it also has to be applicable! Stick to the challenge, and be clear.
If you *know* before you submit that nobody but you is going to understand your photo and you *know* it's gonna earn bad scores, then ya shouldn't complain how it's receiving lousy scores when nobody "gets" it. (no direct flames) I've read stuff like this all over the site..
I'm just bothered by the people saying that if you take a photo of a clock in a challenge called Time, that you're NOT creative. Like dsidwell said above, there *was* a lot of experimentation and new ideas in the watch photos. Its not like they were all photos of clocks on a wall.
dsidwell said it perfectly in an earlier post... (two quotes in one post - boy that guy's on the ball! :)
I think these challenges are like an editor saying: "Get me a picture about TIME!" And so you do it. If you come up with a creative, cool photo about time, the editor is pleased. If it is boring or of low quality, she won't be. Whether or not it is of a clock is irrelevant,
as long as it communicates "Time" and as long as it is worthy to print in the magazine.
And yeah, I got an obvious clock/watch photo, but it's one of the well done ones :)
Message edited by author 2003-03-25 23:38:11. |
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03/26/2003 01:04:42 PM · #43 |
Well, for all this, my absolute favourite of the entire lot is a shot of a watch.
Another point to throw into this witch's brew of opinions: is there not somehing in the rules that says something about 'photos of artwork other than your own' not being allowable? This pretty much sums up a good deal of the entries for me, and a goood deal of what my orignal point in this thread was intended to convey: a lot (not giving a percentage, but it feels like more than half) of the entries relied on the simple impact of the subject for their own impact: in sense they were just rostrum work, and often not good rostrum work.
For myself, I don't like that - it becomes 'just a photo of a clock'. I was hoping for more from these entries, and fortunately that was forthcoming - I would say that the best photos in this challenge are some of the bst photos I've seen on the site.
Ed
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03/27/2003 11:01:53 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by e301:
Well, for all this, my absolute favourite of the entire lot is a shot of a watch.
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Mine too. I wonder if it's the same one. It's exquisite!
I don't mind photos of pretty clocks, especially if the photographer was able, through the photo, to stress or amplify the beauty of the clock. I have found that this week, those photographers who did this were able to use all of the elements of good photography: light (especially light!), focus, DOF, composition, cropping, etc. Through these things, they were really able to communicate the "essence" of these time pieces.
I have to say that many of my favorite shots were not of clocks at all, too. But a good photo is a good photo, and if it was a good photo and fell within the theme (very few didn't), I gave them high scores.
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03/27/2003 11:10:52 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by mavrik:
I am a sensitive artist.
Nobody understands me because I am so deep.
In my work I make allusions to books that nobody else has read,
Music that nobody else has heard,
And art that nobody else has seen.
I can't help it
Because I am so much more intelligent
And well-rounded
Than everyone who surrounds me.
I stopped watching tv when I was six months old
Because it was so boring and stupid
And started reading books
And going to recitals
And art galleries.
I don't go to recitals anymore
Because my hearing is too sensitive
And I don't go to art galleries anymore
Because there are people there
And I can't deal with people
Because they don't understand me.
I stay home
Reading books that are beneath me,
And working on my work,
Which no one understands
I am sensitive...
I am a sensitive artist... |
LOL!!! i know people like this! |
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03/27/2003 11:53:07 PM · #46 |
| wow there is a word for this thread and maybe the site?......................Begins with an "A" it's Anal retentive! |
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03/28/2003 01:52:01 AM · #47 |
| who is afraid of the last thead? |
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03/28/2003 03:25:36 AM · #48 |
The challenge topic "Time".
Well, At first I thought the photo's of a clock were not that creative but now realize that we are in a challenge contest and that the winning photos will have to be understood by all. A time piece does bring out definition of time and most of us will understand that. So, my thought has change a little to accept time pieces as part of the topic for "Time" |
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03/28/2003 05:52:57 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by rogerspaul:
wow there is a word for this thread and maybe the site?......................Begins with an "A" it's Anal retentive! |
But that's two words! ;-)
Ed
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03/28/2003 07:38:50 AM · #50 |
I'm quite new to all this - still can't believe I actually won a comp!! But I agree that time was meant to cover so many more areas than just clocks and watches. My submission was a watch, and I'm disappointed that it was my submission! Not to mention that it is scoring very poorly but its just boring - and done to death!
This was a concept of 'time' that I thought of submitting but didn't get the time to... a wide shot of a sidewalk with houses in the background - and quite small in the screen positioned on the left hand of the screen walking to the right is an old man using a walking cane. The concept that when you're older everything seems to take more time. I wish I had a Grandpa alive!!! Ahh well - maybe it'll come around again :)
Phil |
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