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02/19/2005 10:57:01 PM · #26 |
I thought for a while about taking the black/white approach to voting: you only have two choices, Do you like this photo? Yes/no. The one with most Yes-es wins :) Of course it wouldn't work, but it's just a thought...
Reading through this, I tend to agree to the ranking proposal. The last open challenge, Pain, revealed this best, but scoring a photo is completely relative to all the other photos submitted in that certain challenge. So it's only logical to move fom voting to ranking. Maybe even make a little javascript arrow and have the user click on where he'd place that certain photo, then have it show as a line which shows the title when you hover over it. That way you remember which photo you placed where and can place the next photo before or after one of the little lines you placed before. |
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02/19/2005 11:25:48 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Gurilla:
Originally posted by rex07734:
Why is it people keep talking about scoring it based on if it meets the challenge to them. READ THE RULES for voting people.
You should then vote on the photo as if the rule was not broken, and leave the determination up to the Site Council. |
James, they are not talking about DQ requests. They are talking about meeting the challenge. Meeting the challenge is one part of of the final score given on a photo but does not and should not be considered as a reason for a DQ request. |
Ooooops sorry.... I broke my number 2 rule and didn't read the whole thread....sorry
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02/19/2005 11:40:49 PM · #28 |
| Sorry if I'm repeating anything already said but, I think splitting it up to tenths of a point would be too complex. What's the difference between 7.1 and 7.2? Also, the average score in the end will be about the same if we had scores by 1.0pts or 0.1pts because we have a sufficiently large sample of scores per image. |
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03/13/2005 12:43:35 PM · #29 |
When we consider changing the scoring system, it is useful to consider the purpose of the change. I participate in the site because I want to learn about how people react to my photos and how my photos could be made better so that more people react positively. The site council is interested in a scoring system that meets users needs but also one that is simple to program, easy to understand, and easy to use. They want to encourage as many good photos at this site as possible. Simplicity is a compelling argument in any scoring system. So is inclusiveness.
As a user, I would be happy to see a system that scored the photo on its separate merits, for instance: composition, lighting and exposure, how well the photo fit the challenge, and overall impact. I believe that such a system would allow me to focus on the areas in my own practice that need the most improvement. I think it would be too difficult to score each of these areas on a 10 pt scale, but perhaps a five point scale would work for each area - assuming the areas are of equal importance. This makes scoring seem a little more objective, it takes just a little more time to do, and it provides infinitely more information to the user than does a score without a comment.
I find it is useful to think of the competition as a tool for encouraging competition, but to take winning and not winning as being interesting artifacts of the competition. But that's because I have so far to go before winning is a relevant idea. That said, if the challenge is to be more than just a beauty contest, but a place where people refine their skills, some of these ideas might prove helpful.
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03/13/2005 12:47:27 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by nova:
My suggestion to change the voting to a 1-7 scale didn't get a lot of support, and that's understandable. Even so, responses to that thread suggest to me that I am not alone in thinking that there is room for improvement in the way we vote. What about this:
Keep the current 1-10 scale, but refine it so that when you click on a number, say 5, a drop-down menu appears offering:
(5.0)--(5.1)--(5.2)--(5.3)--(5.4)--(5.5)--(5.6)--(5.7)--(5.8)--(5.9)
Someone else suggested in the previous thread that we have a box that we can type the numerical vote into instead of clicking on the bar. That also sounds like a good idea to me. In this case, the decimal could be inserted automatically for quick and easy use. Except for the fact that change is involved, anybody see any downside? |
Sorry, what problem are we trying to solve? |
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03/13/2005 01:28:29 PM · #31 |
| In the end changing the voting is not going to end the fact that some pictures will be scored low. This is just making voting more of a pain. |
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03/13/2005 01:41:42 PM · #32 |
| Hello all, me again. Please note: I thought this thread had died a quiet death! I made my suggestion, it was politely but firmly shot down, and I thought to myself, "Good, won't do that again." So, at least for me, please consider the suggestion withdrawn and the idea dead. Long live 1 to 10! |
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