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02/16/2005 10:08:24 PM · #26
Price of one grand is my guess, that's all.
As for hacks, what's left to hack?
It has FEC, selectable focus modes, MLU, and 2nd curtain flash.
Only difference to the 20D I can see is the 3 fps vs 5fps and the body material and I'm not sure that increasing the fps is possible. I sure don't need 5fps, 3 is enough for me.
Oh well, it's a good thing I really really like the DR, except that it's a bit slow to start up and write into the CF card. I think the image quality is good enough for me right now. Maybe I'll wait for the Rebel 400. I can see it now, Digic III, 12MP, 5fps, 1000 shots per charge, and 500 bucks. Well, we can all dream.
02/16/2005 10:09:21 PM · #27
Originally posted by deapee:

and btw...I never said *I* knew how to use the lens or the camera, only meant that I've seen some really good photos taken with the kit lens.


I was commenting more on the sloppy feel of the lens than its' optical performance. And I wasn't implying that I knew how to use it either, anymore than the next person. I manage with it.
02/16/2005 10:11:49 PM · #28
Originally posted by orussell:

Originally posted by deapee:

and btw...I never said *I* knew how to use the lens or the camera, only meant that I've seen some really good photos taken with the kit lens.


I was commenting more on the sloppy feel of the lens than its' optical performance. And I wasn't implying that I knew how to use it either, anymore than the next person. I manage with it.


I gotcha...no hard feelings. I'm just upset about other things in my life right now so I'm quick to get all 'jumpy'...sorry.
02/16/2005 10:13:42 PM · #29
Originally posted by deapee:

Originally posted by orussell:

Originally posted by deapee:

and btw...I never said *I* knew how to use the lens or the camera, only meant that I've seen some really good photos taken with the kit lens.


I was commenting more on the sloppy feel of the lens than its' optical performance. And I wasn't implying that I knew how to use it either, anymore than the next person. I manage with it.


I gotcha...no hard feelings. I'm just upset about other things in my life right now so I'm quick to get all 'jumpy'...sorry.


No hard feelings. We've all been there a time or two. Hang in there. ;)
02/16/2005 10:21:51 PM · #30
Withdrawn comment...

Message edited by author 2005-02-16 22:23:27.
02/16/2005 10:22:49 PM · #31
PRICE $999.99 for the KIT

READ 'EM AND WEAP
//www.livingroom.org.au/photolog/reviews/canon/canon_rebel_xt.php
Well, I can atleast enjoy the DR till March. I bet they'll have triple shifts at the Canon factory to even try to meet demand.
02/16/2005 10:24:53 PM · #32
Originally posted by yido:

Only difference to the 20D I can see is the 3 fps vs 5fps and the body material and I'm not sure that increasing the fps is possible. I sure don't need 5fps, 3 is enough for me.


The 20D also has more AF points, ISO 3200, 8.2 vs. 8.0 megapixels and probably a few other minor enhancements...
02/16/2005 10:25:25 PM · #33
Originally posted by yido:

Price of one grand is my guess, that's all.


That is probably a very wishful guess. I expect it to be much closer to the price of the 20D then it will be to 1K. I think over $1200.
02/16/2005 10:29:47 PM · #34
Originally posted by yido:

PRICE $999.99 for the KIT

READ 'EM AND WEAP
//www.livingroom.org.au/photolog/reviews/canon/canon_rebel_xt.php
Well, I can atleast enjoy the DR till March. I bet they'll have triple shifts at the Canon factory to even try to meet demand.


Originally posted by Digital Photography Blog::


A member over at DP Review forums has some gossip on the price for the Canon Rebel XT. It is totally unconfirmed...


Hope it is right though. That would bring down the price of the 20D (and the D70)

Message edited by author 2005-02-16 22:32:00.
02/16/2005 10:38:31 PM · #35
I think the pricing is more strategic. Didn't the 10D have a similar price to the 20D? About 1.5 grand while the entry Rebel is about 1 grand? Now who would pay 1/3 more (about 500 bucks) for the extra features of the 20D, assuming that this pricing holds?
02/16/2005 10:40:37 PM · #36
The same folks who paid for the 10D? Or the same type of folks at least?

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02/16/2005 10:40:46 PM · #37
Oh well, I'm gonna wait for the Rebel 400 with a 10-300MM f1.0 IS lens.
Ha ha.
02/16/2005 10:41:27 PM · #38
L lens that is.
ha ah
02/16/2005 10:53:03 PM · #39
As the lowest offering in the line, no matter what features the Rebel has, some will refuse to take it seriously since it is the entry point; so the 20D and it's successors will always have a market.

Any word on the AI servos? Pretty much the only flaw not addressed.
02/16/2005 11:07:28 PM · #40
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

As the lowest offering in the line, no matter what features the Rebel has, some will refuse to take it seriously since it is the entry point; so the 20D and it's successors will always have a market.

Any word on the AI servos? Pretty much the only flaw not addressed.

I think you are right. Pricing is dependent on marketing. I think it the focus modes are all selectable, just like my hack except the SE version works.
02/16/2005 11:11:26 PM · #41
Originally posted by yido:

Price of one grand is my guess, that's all.
As for hacks, what's left to hack?
It has FEC, selectable focus modes, MLU, and 2nd curtain flash.
Only difference to the 20D I can see is the 3 fps vs 5fps and the body material and I'm not sure that increasing the fps is possible. I sure don't need 5fps, 3 is enough for me.
Oh well, it's a good thing I really really like the DR, except that it's a bit slow to start up and write into the CF card. I think the image quality is good enough for me right now. Maybe I'll wait for the Rebel 400. I can see it now, Digic III, 12MP, 5fps, 1000 shots per charge, and 500 bucks. Well, we can all dream.


What about exposure mode selection? Partial, evaluative, center weighted

Does this still get automatically selected depending on the shooting mode?
02/16/2005 11:16:54 PM · #42
Please don't take this the wrong way since I'm Nikon scum. :-) It's a serious question.

From the article (emphasis mine):
The Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT features a newly developed, second generation, extremely low noise APS-C size 8.0 Megapixel CMOS sensor, the fourth new CMOS sensor from Canon in just twelve months.

Is this really a positive? Why would they have to keep releasing new sensors throughout the year? Shouldn't they get the technology right, before they release it?

I'm just curious if Canon is working to sell the best product, or the most product, by trying to rush to market before their competitors.

Just something I would be pondering if I were looking into purchasing a new camera.

You can start clubbing me now. ;-)
02/16/2005 11:21:06 PM · #43
You could liken it to computer advances, why release a 3 gig processor when they can wait 6 months and release the 5 gig processor. People will upgrade knowing that technology is going to advance. The sooner you can jump on a band wagon the longer you can use the technology before it becomes obsolete. (Usually the day after you buy something)
02/16/2005 11:22:08 PM · #44
If we waited until the technology was perfect then nothing would get released. There will always be improvements to be made. As with computers what is released today is obsolete tomorrow.
02/16/2005 11:27:17 PM · #45
this new camera is exactly what i've been waiting for :-)

wooohoo!

Message edited by author 2005-02-16 23:27:48.
02/16/2005 11:39:21 PM · #46
Originally posted by kawesttex:

You could liken it to computer advances, why release a 3 gig processor when they can wait 6 months and release the 5 gig processor. People will upgrade knowing that technology is going to advance. The sooner you can jump on a band wagon the longer you can use the technology before it becomes obsolete. (Usually the day after you buy something)


Excellent analogy. The whole CPU speed race was a joke, and nothing but a marketing ploy, for the most part. As Intel & AMD were racing each other to release the next fastest chip, Apple had no part of it and their "slower" CPUs would out perform the "faster" Wintel CPU's. (Note - I'm a PC guy)

I would just hope people consider this before they go and start dumping their recently puchased 300D's (probably for a loss) to get the XT. Is it really that much of an improvement?
02/16/2005 11:56:00 PM · #47
Originally posted by cbeller:


I would just hope people consider this before they go and start dumping their recently puchased 300D's (probably for a loss) to get the XT. Is it really that much of an improvement?


I wouldn't get rid aof a 300D at a loss to get one, but if I was about to go out to buy my first entry level DSLR it would definatly be a major consideration. If it take better pictures, well people want better pictures.

I only wish Nikon was going to all the effort to rush to improve thier DSLR line. Perhap a little competion would help drive down Canon's prices
02/17/2005 12:32:45 AM · #48


The EOS 350D (Rebel XT) should retail for around $1899.00 Australian Dollars (approx $1299-$1399.00 US) and be available late March/early April.

02/17/2005 12:32:50 AM · #49
If it's a newer sensor, will it be better than the 20D? For as much as they talk about improvements it sure seems like it should...
02/17/2005 12:39:32 AM · #50
Originally posted by rex07734:

When available????????


Mid March I hear, and $999.
Did you read the article?
EF-S 60mm 2.8 lens?? When did that appear? they mention 4 EF-S lenses - I knew of only 2 - so what is the fourth one?

Lots of neat new features! Perhaps I shoulda waited on my Rebel...nah, gotta upgrade sometime, might as well be sooner rather than later.
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