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02/13/2005 06:01:44 PM · #1 |
I was in Best Buy today killing time before my movie started...what size print can you get from a regular 35 mm film camera?
Like this one for example... //www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1072285324493&skuId=6265034&productCategoryId=cat04021&type=product
Is it hard to get a print much bigger than 4x6? where do you send the negative to to have it printed (do they do that at most 1-hour photo places)? I just don't see how that works because technically, you're taking an image that is embedded on a little piece of paper (film in this case) and blowing it up to a 4x6...any links to how that works?
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02/13/2005 06:08:40 PM · #2 |
darkroom post-production. Basically what they do is project light though the negative (35mm film) and use lens to put the projecting to focus. It works the same way a movie projector works.
Then they burn to paper.
I have a couple of 14x20 from 35mm and its as sharp and crisp. I dont know whats the biggest you can go from 35mm without loosing quality or details... but its pretty big. |
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02/13/2005 06:08:53 PM · #3 |
| You shine light through the negative and it lands onto film paper which will show the image on it after being hit by light. You can control the size of the print by moving the negative closer or farther from the paper. There's more too it than that but basically that's it. 4x6 is not big for 35mm at all. |
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02/13/2005 06:12:55 PM · #4 |
I have an awesome print approximately 20"X30" from a 35mm negative. Cost me about $40 US for the print (it was a special offer) and I spent about $90 to have it framed. This was a long time ago and I do my own matting and framing now but the print is still my living-room centerpiece.
Take it to a real photo shop. Not a one-hour or quick stop. If it is worth the effort it is worth the professional treatment.
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02/13/2005 06:15:05 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by kyebosh:
4x6 is not big for 35mm at all. |
16x20 is usually the high side of what can do with a sharp well exposed 35mm neg, though I have seen people go bigger with good results.
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02/13/2005 06:17:06 PM · #6 |
hrmm...thanks for the input.
I'm thinking of getting a film camera. Why? I have no idea.
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02/13/2005 06:18:26 PM · #7 |
B&W film photography is awesome...especially if you get the chance to develop yourself
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02/13/2005 06:22:48 PM · #8 |
I don't know if the quicky 1hour places have the ability to print larger than 4x6 in their machines. If you want big prints from the quicky place they send them out to a bigger lab.
Ask around there may be a lab near you, but they are not as common as the 1hour places. |
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02/13/2005 06:25:45 PM · #9 |
I still use, and love, my Pentax Superprogram 35mm SLR. I use it mainly for B&W film photography. There are just some things you can do with film that you can't really duplicate with digital.. and both forms of photography have their pros and cons.
Heck, even when I get my Pentax dSLR.. I'll still cart around the film SLR
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02/13/2005 06:30:20 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by maxj:
B&W film photography is awesome...especially if you get the chance to develop yourself |
that's what I was thinking about -- B&W...I don't know.
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02/13/2005 06:54:57 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Originally posted by maxj:
B&W film photography is awesome...especially if you get the chance to develop yourself |
that's what I was thinking about -- B&W...I don't know. |
the hardest part of film is realizing that every shot costs money to see.
even my school which is dirt poor has a darkroom, maybe if you could make nice with your local school, you could get in :)
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02/13/2005 07:09:07 PM · #12 |
One thing to watch for is that quite a few places will color print B&W film, which will give you images, but not the rich tones and subtle tones that silver gives you.
Sometimes I miss the darkroom, but my sweaters don't all have holes in them, and my fingers don't stink of fixative.
If you want a very different approach to shooting, borrow a big format camera ( the sort with big plates and a hood you crawl under to focus) and shoot with that for a day or two. Having six or so possible shots for the day will teach you how to wait for the light, and to really think about your composition. The resulting negative can be blown up to wall size without any loss. |
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02/13/2005 07:11:26 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
If you want a very different approach to shooting, borrow a big format camera ( the sort with big plates and a hood you crawl under to focus) and shoot with that for a day or two. Having six or so possible shots for the day will teach you how to wait for the light, and to really think about your composition. The resulting negative can be blown up to wall size without any loss. |
Strictly out of curosity...
a)where would one find a camera like that
b)how much would it take (fiscally) to get my hands on it?
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02/13/2005 07:19:55 PM · #14 |
| can you buy transparency film instead of negatives in 35mm format? I hear they are much more detailed, and you can scan them at multiple times the resolution of negatives. |
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02/13/2005 09:18:35 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by kyebosh:
can you buy transparency film instead of negatives in 35mm format? I hear they are much more detailed, and you can scan them at multiple times the resolution of negatives. |
I haven't heard about slides being more detailed, but they do have some positive qualities, particularly more color saturation and increased contrast, thus making them better for scanning to digital. Slides have been the standard for magazine printwork for decades, or so I hear. I'm not quite an expert on the subject and have only shot a couple of rolls. If you can afford it, get a couple rolls of fuji velvia. It's only available in iso 100 but it is incredible. Get the exposure right and you will be blown away. |
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02/13/2005 09:26:42 PM · #16 |
Check this out: //www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/print-or-slide-film.html
The general rule with slide film is to expose for highlights. It is always better to underexpose when shooting slides. However, that is about the extent of my knowledge on the subject. |
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02/13/2005 09:31:22 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by maxj:
Strictly out of curosity...
a)where would one find a camera like that
b)how much would it take (fiscally) to get my hands on it? |
EBay. You can probably find a good
4x5 or 8x10 box camera for a few hundred used. They start at just under $1k new.
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02/13/2005 09:44:16 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by maxj:
Strictly out of curosity...
a)where would one find a camera like that
b)how much would it take (fiscally) to get my hands on it? |
You can get pretty good deals on older medium format cameras such as Yashica 124 TLRs on Ebay. I have a couple of them and develop the 120 film at home, then take it to a school nearby on Saturdays and use their enlarger. Eventually, I will go ahead and buy an enlarger, they're not that much 300 to 400 dollars.
It's a lot of fun developing your own film and saves a LOT of money too!
Message edited by author 2005-02-13 22:48:51. |
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02/13/2005 10:08:28 PM · #19 |
I got a Contax TVS for Xmas, 35mm compact with aperture priority, exposure compensation, and a Zeiss T* 28-56mm lens. Lens made by Zeiss, not a Sony Zeiss, so new it was about $1000. Cost $300 US on eBay used. I got it so I could play with film and make big, quality prints with something I could carry everywhere. I have a roll of Velvia in it right now that I'm almost through. I'm keenn to get the slides back, and have them made into prints. It'd be really nice to get a good film scanner soon, too. I'd suggest something like a TVS or a Leica Minilux or a fixed lens point and shoot like the Contax T3. Great quality and lots of fun to take a different approach sometimes.
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02/13/2005 10:23:19 PM · #20 |
Most 4x6 photos are made by scanning them then printing. Done inside the 1 hour machines. Slides acctually have less dynamic range and less latitude for exposure error. I like them alot though.
Tim |
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02/14/2005 01:01:59 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by deapee:
hrmm...thanks for the input.
I'm thinking of getting a film camera. Why? I have no idea. |
Get a medium format camera. Pentax 67's are very cheap...shoot slides and scan them in. 40x50's look great!!
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02/14/2005 01:14:52 AM · #22 |
transpsrency film is generally finer grained than its colour print counterpart. the colour isdeeper and the detail pronounced, its lovely stuff to use. for prints and enlargements there is nothing better thanhaving them done on a Fuji Frontier system and the cost of them is the same as from a negative. I always use Bright Photo Lab. in Waikanae
N.Z. Paul is a working photographer as well and produces brilliant work from his machine. for an 8x12 enlargement he charges $NZ 15.95.
Message edited by author 2005-02-14 01:20:16. |
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02/14/2005 03:00:00 AM · #23 |
'Urro
The biggest print I've had done from film is 38"x25" which was the largest the lab could do at the time. It has pride of place on our wall.
It was shot with Kodak ektachrome 64 from memory, and printed direct to kodak syberchrome (sp?) paper.
From my experience you can get good 'poster' quality prints from 35mm up to around 30x20 with most films, and very good 'art' prints from better films. Like everything, you get what you pay for when buying film.
Cheers, Me.
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