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02/07/2005 05:48:40 PM · #1
I am considering buying either a new Canon 300D or a refurbished 10D for about the same price. I would like to ask for any input from you folks to aid me in making my decision. I did read the 10 does not accept EF S lenses and am uncertain as to how that should affect my decision. Thanks for your help.
02/07/2005 05:52:54 PM · #2
You're right, the 10D doesn't take EF-S lenses..only the 300D and 20D, though and as far as I know there aren't many lenses with the S mount made yet.

I'd go with the 10D if you can't afford a new 20D. That is, if the refurbished 10D is coming from a reputable dealer.
02/07/2005 06:15:35 PM · #3
Seems to be, ratings all are positive and many of them, offers a 90 day warranty and for 50 bucks I can purchase a year warranty.
02/07/2005 06:59:59 PM · #4
You may have already seen this, 10D vs. 300D, but if not, it may help with your decision making process.
02/07/2005 07:08:01 PM · #5
Outstanding link...many thanks!
02/07/2005 07:25:43 PM · #6
You are very welcome; it was one of the many things that I researched to help me make my decision.

Having had my 10D for well over a year, and carried it absolutely everywhere with me, there is one thing above all others that makes me SO glad that I got it - I am VERY hard on my cameras, and this thing has held up SO VERY well! I really don't think a 300D would have made it this far with me - my 10D has been banged around quite a lot, and I haven't had a moment's trouble from it.
02/08/2005 01:44:49 AM · #7
Well, took the plunge and ordered the 10D. Now.. just need to hook up with a starter lens that is budget oriented. Any suggestions?
02/08/2005 01:50:36 AM · #8
Originally posted by canoe3k:

Well, took the plunge and ordered the 10D. Now.. just need to hook up with a starter lens that is budget oriented. Any suggestions?


"Budget-oriented" means different things to different people. To what budget are we orienting this? What do you want to be able to do with the lens? (Yeah, I know, take pictures...)

-Terry
02/08/2005 01:55:16 AM · #9
Well I am hoping for a bit of all-in-one. Macro capabilities as I enjoy that. Probably will not have a need for tremendous telephoto at this point.. so medium range with macro. The budget.. around 250.
02/08/2005 01:55:28 AM · #10
Well I've been singing the praises of the Sigma 18-125. I think it's a great lens that would replace the normal "kit lens" range.

There's a bunch of threads about this and other lens choices. See "Walk Around Lens" as a topic as well as some others.
02/08/2005 01:55:54 AM · #11
Originally posted by canoe3k:

Well I am hoping for a bit of all-in-one. Macro capabilities as I enjoy that. Probably will not have a need for tremendous telephoto at this point.. so medium range with macro. The budget.. around 250.


The Sigma is right in your budget--$250 to be exact!
02/08/2005 02:06:45 AM · #12
Good point, seeing as how this conversation is taking place other places, perhaps we should just close the door on this one. Thanks for the recommendation.
02/08/2005 02:17:12 AM · #13
Your desire to shoot macro suggests the Sigma 28-135mm F3.8-5.6 Aspherical IF Macro Lens. Though a little slower than its Canon counterpart (which is a 3.5-5.6 lens), the Sigma lens offers macro capability where the Canon-made lens does not. This lens will cost you about $130, leaving you plenty of room in your budget to pick up some other goodies like a larger memory card for example.

-Terry
02/08/2005 02:34:15 AM · #14
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Your desire to shoot macro suggests the Sigma 28-135mm F3.8-5.6 Aspherical IF Macro Lens. Though a little slower than its Canon counterpart (which is a 3.5-5.6 lens), the Sigma lens offers macro capability where the Canon-made lens does not. This lens will cost you about $130, leaving you plenty of room in your budget to pick up some other goodies like a larger memory card for example.

-Terry


The problem with a 3.8 on the Rebel is that it doesn't exist, so you get bumped down to the next stop, or at least so I've read.

Also, 28 doesn't provide any wide angle for a 1.6 crop factor SLR.

I think the 18-125 also is 1:2 macro, and of course, for both lenses, that's really just close up, not technically macro. But I've found it to be sufficient.

Here's a link to the reviews on Fred Miranda:

Sigma 18-125

Message edited by author 2005-02-08 02:40:59.
02/08/2005 02:58:13 AM · #15
Sigma's web site states a 1:5.3 ratio and 50cm minimum focusing distance for the 18-125. The site does list a 1:2 ratio in macro mode and 24cm minimum focusing distance for the 28-135, making it more suitable to macro photography.

It's also worth noting that the 18-128 is a digital-only lens, something worth noting if the original poster plans to expand to film at all.

EDIT: I believe you are correct about the 3.8 issue. That effectively makes the lens an f/4-5.6, not much of a change really, and my original point holds about it being just a little slower than its Canon counterpart.

-Terry

Message edited by author 2005-02-08 03:02:51.
02/08/2005 03:05:29 AM · #16
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Sigma's web site states a 1:5.3 ratio and 50cm minimum focusing distance for the 18-125. The site does list a 1:2 ratio in macro mode and 24cm minimum focusing distance for the 28-135, making it more suitable to macro photography.

It's also worth noting that the 18-128 is a digital-only lens, something worth noting if the original poster plans to expand to film at all.

EDIT: I believe you are correct about the 3.8 issue. That effectively makes the lens an f/4-5.6, not much of a change really, and my original point holds about it being just a little slower than its Canon counterpart.

-Terry


Sorry, memory served me wrong and didn't think to look on Sigma site.

If macro is important, and the 18-125 isn't good enough, I still think it would be worth looking elswhere. Wide angle is too important and a F4 max aperture isn't very good, even at that price. Although maybe the 10D can do F3.8. The Rebel can't.

Edit: There's also a Sigma 18-50 he might look at.

Message edited by author 2005-02-08 03:06:52.
02/08/2005 11:43:40 AM · #17
I am leaning towards the Sigma Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto 28-105mm f/2.8-4.0 Aspherical Autofocus Lens for Canon EOS. Can be had at Digital Foto Club for 160 and they have excellent ratings.Haven't decided yet.
02/08/2005 11:01:59 PM · #18
Well after kicking around the pluses and minuses of both of your excellent recommendations and harboring some brief hallucinations of my own I settled on the 28-135mm F3.8-5.6 I really appreciate both of your suggestions as they made me consider carefully what exactly I would be doing most with my camera and what lens would suit my initial purposes best. The bad part about going out looking for lenses is getting off track with glass that is to expensive for initial budgets and too specialzed for walk around use. Still...one can dream... again, thanks.
02/09/2005 07:04:02 PM · #19
It's still good to look at those lenses. Knowing what you intend for future lens purchases helps you make your current ones wisely.

Glad I could help,
Terry
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