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02/04/2005 07:27:04 PM · #51 |
I must say, you sort of hinted yourself that you didn't really have many ideas, and submission was nearing the deadline and this just popped into your head -- spontaneous, I think you called it.
I'll elaborate some -- most of the time, spur of the moment entries don't really score that well. Not much thought went into this -- and it's not going to captivate the audience that well...it's just plain and to be quite honest, borring. Normally I wouldn't be so harsh, but I figured I'd put it all out there and let you know (because you asked) why your photo didn't score where *you* thought it should.
You did, however, get a few 10's -- which I'd say is pretty good -- I'd be happy with that, myself.
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02/04/2005 08:50:56 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by deapee:
I must say, you sort of hinted yourself that you didn't really have many ideas, and submission was nearing the deadline and this just popped into your head -- spontaneous, I think you called it.
I'll elaborate some -- most of the time, spur of the moment entries don't really score that well.
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You're implying that an idea that wasn't deliberated for a long period of time won't be good. This is nonsensical. A photo or an idea's worth isn't based upon how long it took to think it up. No one says "It's a good photo but it didn't take you long enough to think of it". Time may effect your ability to execute an idea but it shouldn't be used to judge the quality of it.
Originally posted by deapee:
it's just plain and to be quite honest, borring.
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Your opinion is your own but you probably can't accurately say that it's boring. The amount of responses and the divergence on his score demonstrates that.
Message edited by author 2005-02-04 20:52:33.
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02/06/2005 07:35:14 AM · #53 |
I posted this originally be cause I think voters somtimes vote with out thinking anything, some don't even take the time to read the title of the picture. They just go as fast as they can throught the pictures.
Goal: get them to talk about it and they will start thinking about it.
Some start to talk about art, like some form is more of an art than others. What is the definition of art any way? Bet none of you know!
I say that you can't define what is art and what is not. My picture is pure art, but thats not all it's a funny one too.
I have had a few response on my picture that where not in the comments:
a) that is one lucky guy
b) that was one good party
c) was it gay party?
What did you think? or didn't you think?
What I thought was it would be funny to see someone dry a condom on a string. Since the theme of the challenge was three I used the whole packet, but it was ok I did not have to use them since we are expecting a little baby boy on 23ed of mars.
ps because I like math:
Statistically fair score is when it peeks ,at say 5, where most users vote it 5 and then its about even on both sides always less the further away from the peek.
edit: typo
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02/06/2005 08:15:31 AM · #54 |
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02/06/2005 08:36:21 AM · #55 |
| I thought was that it was a good photo technically of a unappealling subject that met the challenge. Gave it a 5. If the subject was appealling, would have scored it much higher. Check out the winner. Flowers instead of condoms. I gave it a 10. Pick something that people want to look at to score higher. |
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02/06/2005 08:58:47 AM · #56 |
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Who cares, entering a funny shot is worth skipping on a blue ribbon with a set of tulips. |
Only sometimes. And not at DPC. If you enter the challenge, try to win. Otherwise, there are lots of sites to "get comments" on your work. Try photosig, photocritique.net and others. Actually try submitting this shot to either of those. Tell us what they tell you.
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02/06/2005 09:48:27 AM · #57 |
| I actually had to go check and see what I gave you before I responded. I gave you a 7. Great picture, not the best subject matter. My 8 yr old likes to look at the pictures and trying to explain it to her was *saracasim* fun. |
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02/06/2005 10:35:08 AM · #58 |
If you view your photography as art then you should be pleased to have evoked such a strong emotional reaction from so many people. Granted it was a negative reaction in those 25 voters that gave you a 1. I regard a strongly polarised voting population as an indicator of the effectiveness of the image.
Well done on having the guts to enter it. I didn't find it particularly attractive and I don't believe humour is sufficient reason to post on its own. So it would have been a 7 from me merely for the well done technicals.
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02/06/2005 02:05:47 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by Nazgul:
stop the whining!!! |
You only stopped whining after you got your first ribbon.
So I'm only doing what you used to do. Looks like it worked for you.
edit: typo
Message edited by author 2005-02-06 14:29:57. |
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02/06/2005 02:11:47 PM · #60 |
| I think your "excellent" picture perfectly deserved the score it got. I just feel bad for the 26 or so poor blokes that got lower result. |
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02/06/2005 02:26:01 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by kemilg:
I think your "excellent" picture perfectly deserved the score it got. I just feel bad for the 26 or so poor blokes that got lower result. |
You are so funny.
Just remember Kristján Emil, I know who you are. If you are trying to get back at me then this is not the right way. Just try to take better pictures than me and then I'll be pissed off.
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It's starting to get real low to get post like this from a user that you know and you know he dose not like you and he is only posting this trying to get back at you.
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02/06/2005 02:33:33 PM · #62 |
I am really sorry... Just found this thread very interresting and funny :D
And I have nothing against you personally.
It never fails to surprise me how the very definition of sarcasm gets lost on people.
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02/06/2005 02:45:29 PM · #63 |
I was watching a show, just now, called fetus. It's was about abortions.
They showed a technically good picture of a dead baby/fetus aborted after about 20 weeks of pregnancy. It looked more like a baby than a fetus. Not very pleasant to look at.
I was wondering how a picture like that would score here, say if the theme would be "Story", "way of life" or something like that.
Very powerfull picture, tells horrible story, very shocking.
I think I would give it 9 or 10
But I bet many here would vote it 1 the instant they would see it.
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I think people tend to vote the same way if they see a realy bad picture that is technically bad with bad compositon.... and on a picture that is technically good but envokes a bad reaction, a shocking picture.
I think this is not the correct way to vote. But that just me. |
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02/06/2005 02:47:11 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by kemilg:
I am really sorry... Just found this thread very interresting and funny :D
And I have nothing against you personally.
It never fails to surprise me how the very definition of sarcasm gets lost on people. |
You must have a very twisted definition on sarcasm. |
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02/06/2005 07:01:24 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by siggi:
They showed a technically good picture of a dead baby/fetus aborted after about 20 weeks of pregnancy. It looked more like a baby than a fetus. Not very pleasant to look at. |
I would imagine not.
Originally posted by siggi:
I was wondering how a picture like that would score here, say if the theme would be "Story", "way of life" or something like that.
Very powerfull picture, tells horrible story, very shocking. |
Regardless of the theme, it would score very, very low. If you really need me to tell you that a photo of an aborted fetus will score low then I'm not sure there's much hope for you.
Originally posted by siggi:
I think I would give it 9 or 10. But I bet many here would vote it 1 the instant they would see it. |
Yep. However technically good an image, if the subject matter makes you want to throw up or upsets you so much you can't bear to look, do you really think people are going to score it 9 because it's technically good?
Originally posted by siggi:
I think people tend to vote the same way if they see a realy bad picture that is technically bad with bad compositon.... and on a picture that is technically good but envokes a bad reaction, a shocking picture. |
Maybe. This community is a 'broad church' with many tastes.
Originally posted by siggi:
I think this is not the correct way to vote. But that just me. |
To each his own I say. You could argue with me for the next 100 years that techincally good pictures of aborted fetuses should score 10 and I still wouldn't agree with you.
There is no such thing as the 'correct way to vote'. There is just opinion. Such is art.
Message edited by author 2005-02-06 19:04:55.
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02/06/2005 08:17:50 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by dsb_mac:
Originally posted by deapee:
it's just plain and to be quite honest, borring.
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Your opinion is your own but you probably can't accurately say that it's boring. |
Actually, about 140 people thought the image was plain and borring along with me. You're right, it's my own opinion, I just happen to share the same opinion with over half of the people who voted on the image. That being said, I'm not exactly sure what your point in singling that statement I made out -- unless you wanted to be shown how you're wrong.
The only thing I find not borring is the fact that someone who entered a borring, not-well-thought-out picture of some condoms strung out on a clothes line feels the need to complain about their score.
Message edited by author 2005-02-06 20:19:44.
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02/06/2005 08:22:50 PM · #67 |
I think it is interesting that when we enter a challenge, we are asking for the opinions of the voters.
So, why are we surprised when they give their opinion?
Just my 2 cents....
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02/06/2005 08:25:21 PM · #68 |
Originally posted by aguapreta:
I think it is interesting that when we enter a challenge, we are asking for the opinions of the voters.
So, why are we surprised when they give their opinion?
Just my 2 cents.... |
I wish I could answer that. People don't realize in order to score highly, they have to enter something that will be generally pleasing to the vast majority of voters. If you enter something abstract or of touchy nature, it's just not going to please a high enough percentage of people to really stand out among the crowd.
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02/06/2005 09:53:28 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by deapee:
[quote=aguapreta]People don't realize in order to score highly, they have to enter something that will be generally pleasing to the vast majority of voters. |
He's right you know.
Say I have a fetish for excrement (cropophilia). I don't of course, but say I did. How many pictures of people smeared in shit do you think will score well here?
I could take the most techincally brilliant photo of someone smeared in shit there has ever been, it ain't gonna score well 'cos it has very, VERY narrow appeal and most people find it disgusting.
Being extreme to make a point? Yep. Now stop whinging about your score Siggi.
Message edited by author 2005-02-07 01:37:15.
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02/07/2005 12:59:25 AM · #70 |
Two words... Boo freakin' Hoo!
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02/07/2005 04:22:13 AM · #71 |
Originally posted by TooCool:
Two words... Boo freakin' Hoo! |
If you don't want to talk about the voting on the site and how it is you don't have to. No need to be boring and mean. You don't have to read this if you don't want to.
I have learned alot from this thread. Probably some other have too. This has been more giving than many comments I have receved.
I bet the same people that think I'm whinging complain about voters not commenting about the low votes they recive.
Message edited by author 2005-02-07 04:26:00.
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02/07/2005 04:25:26 AM · #72 |
Originally posted by The Four Bears:
Originally posted by siggi:
I was wondering how a picture like that would score here, say if the theme would be "Story", "way of life" or something like that.
Very powerfull picture, tells horrible story, very shocking. |
Regardless of the theme, it would score very, very low. If you really need me to tell you that a photo of an aborted fetus will score low then I'm not sure there's much hope for you.
Originally posted by siggi:
I think I would give it 9 or 10. But I bet many here would vote it 1 the instant they would see it. |
Yep. However technically good an image, if the subject matter makes you want to throw up or upsets you so much you can't bear to look, do you really think people are going to score it 9 because it's technically good?
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Your right, but i'm not only talking about a technically good photo. I'm talking about a photo that tells a big story and make you stop and think about it.
Well, there is not much to think about in my picture but it was supose to be funny and diffrent from reallity.
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02/07/2005 04:27:15 AM · #73 |
Originally posted by aguapreta:
I think it is interesting that when we enter a challenge, we are asking for the opinions of the voters.
So, why are we surprised when they give their opinion?
Just my 2 cents.... |
a single vote is just a mouse click but a comment is an opinion.
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02/08/2005 01:56:57 AM · #74 |
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Who cares, entering a funny shot is worth skipping on a blue ribbon with a set of tulips. |
Ditto
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02/11/2005 07:33:07 AM · #75 |
Originally posted by siggi:
I was watching a show, just now, called fetus. It's was about abortions.
They showed a technically good picture of a dead baby/fetus aborted after about 20 weeks of pregnancy. It looked more like a baby than a fetus. Not very pleasant to look at.
I was wondering how a picture like that would score here, say if the theme would be "Story", "way of life" or something like that.
Very powerfull picture, tells horrible story, very shocking.
I think I would give it 9 or 10
But I bet many here would vote it 1 the instant they would see it.
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I think people tend to vote the same way if they see a realy bad picture that is technically bad with bad compositon.... and on a picture that is technically good but envokes a bad reaction, a shocking picture.
I think this is not the correct way to vote. But that just me. |
I'm not sure you're right. Consider this...
John |
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