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02/04/2005 11:51:03 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
Also, a photo of me wiping poo from my bum would come across as shocking to most...even though toilet paper and bowel movements are normal, everyday things. |
You didn't clarify that would be using the toilet paper in the shot. Shocking indeed then!
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02/04/2005 12:04:19 PM · #27 |
So should I make this into a print...
The image was just a spontand idea when I was thinking what I should do. I was in a store and saw a three pack of condoms and started thinking what you shoud aboloutly not do with condoms.
Reuse them, the title was to add to the entertainment.
Three is a party was a translation of a saying "Allt þegar þrent er".
it means you will make it in the 3ed attempt
or when you have three you will have it all.
or something in that direction...hard to translate well.
any other Icelander that can do it better?
edit:fixing the dislexic errors
Message edited by author 2005-02-04 12:05:23.
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02/04/2005 12:05:45 PM · #28 |
What were you saying with the image?
I'm assuming it was a reference to a threesome, right?
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02/04/2005 12:21:43 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by autool:
This is an example of why voting should be done on a multi-level format. Like has been suggested many times before, such as Composition, Technical, Appeal, Meets the Challenge, and then averaged for a final value.
Oh by the way if the three condoms had some viagras placed below them it might have been more telling. |
Yeah, has this been discussed as an actual alternative. This would help people better understand their scores, as well as, improve their technique. That would be awesome.
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02/04/2005 12:22:58 PM · #30 |
| Imaginative, funny, gross, competent.....looks like a 10 to me! |
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02/04/2005 12:47:14 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by vince31874:
I gave it a 4.
I don't think the photo is shocking. I just don't find it appealing.
Personally, I just didn't like the way it was setup. First, the "Brown" stuff dripping (Which we now know as syrup) is really the first thing that caught my eye. If anything is dripping, it should be "white", not "brown". Just my opinion.
Also, I felt that maybe you can space the condoms out a little more. Again, just my opinion. |
Sorry didn't notice the title of the image... but just the somple condoms doesn't seem shooking i thought that was all about, but since the title ok i have a diferent view now. :)
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02/04/2005 12:47:56 PM · #32 |
I'm not being a hardass about this, 'cuz I got a chuckle out of the picture, but if we start scoring images like this well, we are going to encourage a rash of relatively "prurient" pictures, bathroom humor, and so forth. I'm not against that stuff, I'm no prude, but it's kind of a cheap way to get attention IMO. Plus, we have a number of very young people on this site, and I'd prefer to see the tone kept a little higher...
Remember, please, I'm not being a hardliner here. This is just an alternate POV. And a gut feeling that this isn't the way to go, a general level of discomfort with the image, ESPECIALLY the drips on the ends of the condoms, caused me to vote this technically very competent image quite low.
I'd have voted the same way, most likely, on a flawless image of a turd in a glass of champagne in a challenge called "opposites", for example. And this, hypocritically enough, comes from the man who gave you a dog taking a dump in the snow for his "candid" entry, so take it with a grain of salt.
Robt.
Message edited by author 2005-02-04 12:49:24.
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02/04/2005 12:53:50 PM · #33 |
Why that brown dripping stuff? Never seen that before.
And three condoms for one night? Why not? You should only use them once and three times in one night isn't that strange.
People who need to see some viagra along with the condoms to get the idea are either very old or have some sexual frustrations. :)
The brown stuff was what did it. Couldn't give it higher than a 6 after that. Brown is not a sexy color. I know some people think otherwise but not me.
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02/04/2005 01:56:33 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by siggi:
I did not expect to win but I expected them to be fair.
25 ones dose not look fair to me. |
and by fair of course you mean to vote (or not vote) the way you want them to..
David LaChapelle took photos of Carmen Electra and hubby-to-be David Navaro naked on a cadavre table in a morgue for their wedding invitations (later used as bachelor party invites instead). He's a brilliant photographer and they were works of art - but it was still disgusting and very subject to taste.
Message edited by author 2005-02-04 13:58:33. |
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02/04/2005 02:01:42 PM · #35 |
maybe to make you feel better - this photo got
58 1's
51 2's
65 3's
of course many thought it to be off topic, as many thought yours to be disgusting... though i didn't think the scores were unfair.
Message edited by author 2005-02-04 14:04:14.
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02/04/2005 02:33:03 PM · #36 |
| I thought is was a good photo but was pretty sure you would get killed in the challenge. Did you really think you would not get a lot of low votes? I have no problem with the photo and no problem with you entering it, it was one of the few photos that was some what different. But if you really care about whether people are giving you ones and twos then you should know enough not to enter this kind of photo. If you don̢۪t care that some number of people will really dislike your photo then more power to you but don̢۪t complain about the votes being some how unfair. |
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02/04/2005 05:28:30 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
and by fair of course you mean to vote (or not vote) the way you want them to..
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Now that is what I call an insult.
I'm not even going to try to answer you. |
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02/04/2005 05:30:41 PM · #38 |
yeah it helps but it more parabolic curve of votes than mine.
staticticly a fair vote would always curve evenly.
Originally posted by soup:
maybe to make you feel better - this photo got
58 1's
51 2's
65 3's
of course many thought it to be off topic, as many thought yours to be disgusting... though i didn't think the scores were unfair.
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02/04/2005 05:40:03 PM · #39 |
dude...it's a picture of three condoms...I don't see what score you expected. I think the photo scored about the same as if I hung three pencils on a clothesline or three pieces of paper -- there just isn't much there that says wow. If anything, you got higher scores (more tens) than 3 pencils would have gotten because those voters probably thought it was a bold move.
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02/04/2005 05:44:09 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by scottwilson:
I thought is was a good photo but was pretty sure you would get killed in the challenge. Did you really think you would not get a lot of low votes? I have no problem with the photo and no problem with you entering it, it was one of the few photos that was some what different. But if you really care about whether people are giving you ones and twos then you should know enough not to enter this kind of photo. If you don̢۪t care that some number of people will really dislike your photo then more power to you but don̢۪t complain about the votes being some how unfair. |
I expected the votes to be low. I expected the votes to be fair.
Look like some gave 1s with out a thought, just saw condoms and gave it one. Did not even think about it.
My point is sometimes its better just to skip voting than vote one on some pictures. I rearly give one. The pictures I give one off topic, technically bad and unintresting. If I can see from the photo that the photographer has put some effort, thoght and time into his picture I give extra credit for that.
Of course people can vote like they want to but do we want voters that vote with out puting a least a tiny thought in to it.
I'm very happy with a the votes I got except for the unfair amount of 1s |
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02/04/2005 05:45:58 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by deapee:
dude...it's a picture of three condoms...I don't see what score you expected. I think the photo scored about the same as if I hung three pencils on a clothesline or three pieces of paper -- there just isn't much there that says wow. If anything, you got higher scores (more tens) than 3 pencils would have gotten because those voters probably thought it was a bold move. |
You forgot funny. |
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02/04/2005 05:46:15 PM · #42 |
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02/04/2005 05:56:03 PM · #43 |
I liked your image and I had a laugh. I scored it high. I thought it was really creative. But I don't expect everyone else to think the same. I knew that you were going to get really low scores. It's how it works and you have to accept it when submitting.
I got 95 votes between 1 and 4 for my best of 2004. But I submitted the image knowing that it's going to happen. I am not disappointed or will post here asking why. The truth is I don't want to know because I already know. I am happy.
If you feel the same way about your image, I don't think there's any point of a thread. |
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02/04/2005 06:06:58 PM · #44 |
Siggi, you're coming across as a whiner. It's ridiculous. I finished even lower than you did, with an image that actually has some significance to me. I didn't expect anyone to get it, and I wasn't disappointed.
Don't talk to us about "fair"... Fair has nothing to do with it. People vote for what they like. Is it unfair that a lot of people emphatically did not like your picture of what appear to be used condoms on a clothesline?
Be happy that a lot of people DID like it. Hardly anyone liked mine, and it's technically competent too.
All you're doing in this thread is beating the voters over the head because they don't share your sense of humor. What a pointless exercise!
Robt.
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02/04/2005 06:13:15 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
If you didn't think a shot of three used condoms would not offend some people then you are fooling yourself. When you see such an image it may not hit any of your hot buttons, but how do you react to strongly nationalistic or religious images? Do you have any reaction outside the quality of the image? Most people have areas that they react negatively to, and the implied group sex is an area that is close to alot of people's bullseye. |
Who cares, entering a funny shot is worth skipping on a blue ribbon with a set of tulips. |
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02/04/2005 06:14:59 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
Hardly anyone liked mine, and it's technically competent too. |
I gave your photo a 4 because I didn't find the content interesting at all and the photo looked overprocessed with its flattened colors. You could see plainly that a lot of filter crap has been going on. It just looks flat, all dimension has been drawn out of it.
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02/04/2005 06:22:49 PM · #47 |
I strongly disagree when people often raise the issue of children and imply that edgy subject matter is frowned upon at DPC. This isn't Disneyland. If parents don't think the subject matter is appropriate for their kids don't let them on. It may be pulp but it's not porn. Not every picture needs to be high key-smiley face-shining clean.
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02/04/2005 06:32:40 PM · #48 |
| I gave it a low score ( not a one but below five, and it was not 3 or a four), because in my opinion, ( and no one probably cares) I thought it was not interesting at all, It just seemed kind of pointless, and tasteless. Also I think that beside the other great pics in this challenge, it desrved it. But, what do I know ?? |
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02/04/2005 06:43:03 PM · #49 |
| Karma? If you create shock art, then don't be surprised if voters give you a shocking vote in return. |
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02/04/2005 07:25:57 PM · #50 |
Once again the debate rages on about art vs photography. The challenge is to shoot something within a boundary. The voter's responsibility is not do judge the Interest level of a photo. The voter's responsibility is to determine how well the photograph meets the challenge FIRST and then determine if the image was well taken or not.
This is an above average image that meets the challenge of THREE - Any definition of the word. It is not great art, so I would hardly put it at a 10. It's not a picture I would like hanging on my wall or go to see on an exhibit. But c'mon people stop trying to turn this site into an art gallery contest. IT ISN'T. This is a damn good picture that got poor marks cuz some people think that """"contests"""" like these have to be about stock art or the evocation of some higher meaning. Stock photography really has nothing to do with high art and you are never gonna sell me on the idea that some people who do that for a living don't shoot 10 quality photos all the time. They are both GOOD photography tho.
Now read my signature ( ;-p )and I'll go back to harvesting the 4 averages I am destined to harvest, because I refuse to fit the expected mold that a number of overzealous art critics are expecting my photography to fit into.
Just trollin around.
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