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01/25/2005 04:36:33 PM · #1
Please go easy on me with this one as my computer skills are not great. I know their must be a easy way to solve this I̢۪m just a bit slow on it.

Problem : I want to put my HDD into another computer that has a better motherboard, CPU etc but have been told the new computer won̢۪t recognize Photoshop CS because of registry files or something.

Questions : How is the best way to separate Photoshop CS onto another drive?

Do I need to contact Adobe and re register CS or get advice from them?

The advice I have so far from my friendly computer store is to network the two Desktops which I understand or ghost the drive which I don̢۪t understand or slave the drive which I̢۪m not real sure about either.

I just would like to get some more clarification as I hate the idea of getting advice from some computer stores that are just looking after their interest I suppose I̢۪m a little mistrusting. Besides I have found great advice from these forums before and like to learn more and find written advice much easier to understand.

Thanks in advance for anyone that can help.

01/25/2005 05:12:52 PM · #2
Well, since the registry is stored on the hard drive, you should have no issues whatsoever with that kind of transfer.

Your issues will be with hardware recognition.
01/25/2005 05:16:00 PM · #3
You should have no problems as long as it has the operating system on the drive and is set to "master" should just boot up and away.
Good luck,
01/25/2005 05:17:07 PM · #4
Sounds like you are intending to take your existing hard drive and put it into a second system as a slave drive with no intention of booting from it correct?

If this is the case what you heard is true. In fact most of your programs will have to be re-installed as the OS will not recognize them due to links and settings will not be in registry of the new machine.

Your data will be fine and can be linked to once your software is re-installed.

Usually the only programs that don't register themselves into registry is old 16-bit legacy applications.

Be prepared to re-install MS Office and the likes if you want them to work and yes have your serialz handy.

If you are planning on moving your existing hard disk into a new machine (XP or Win2K) and booting from it...well if you have never seen the BSOD (blue screen of death) you will.
01/25/2005 05:38:16 PM · #5
Originally posted by awpollard:

Sounds like you are intending to take your existing hard drive and put it into a second system as a slave drive with no intention of booting from it correct?

If this is the case what you heard is true. In fact most of your programs will have to be re-installed as the OS will not recognize them due to links and settings will not be in registry of the new machine.

Your data will be fine and can be linked to once your software is re-installed.

Usually the only programs that don't register themselves into registry is old 16-bit legacy applications.

Be prepared to re-install MS Office and the likes if you want them to work and yes have your serialz handy.

If you are planning on moving your existing hard disk into a new machine (XP or Win2K) and booting from it...well if you have never seen the BSOD (blue screen of death) you will.


That's correct just use it as an extra drive. But can I just swap drives to avoid re -installing?

And I'm worried about Photoshop CS as this required verification similiar to XP. Buy the way both drives have XP on them.

Thanks everyone for the help so far. (in deep water can't swim)
01/25/2005 06:07:37 PM · #6
run the drive with your software as the master drive in the new machine.
run the existing drive in the new machine as a slave drive, and use that for the extra space.
the problem i have come across is disk repair tools, such as norton utilities don't seem to like slave drives with OS's installed on them.

i have done that many times. although with win98 - not XP

Message edited by author 2005-01-25 18:08:17.
01/25/2005 08:05:30 PM · #7
Originally posted by keegbow:


That's correct just use it as an extra drive. But can I just swap drives to avoid re -installing?

And I'm worried about Photoshop CS as this required verification similiar to XP. Buy the way both drives have XP on them.

Thanks everyone for the help so far. (in deep water can't swim)


You will have to re-install PS. As far as verification do a call in when the installation wizard promps for it and tell them your old motherboard fried and you are still using the same computer with a new motherboard. I have done this several times. You do need to have the serial to be able to do this but it should be no problem if you have that. All Adobe is worried about is whether you have this licenced copy of PS on more then one computer. They will probably ask you that. Say NO!
01/25/2005 08:20:50 PM · #8
Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by keegbow:


That's correct just use it as an extra drive. But can I just swap drives to avoid re -installing?

And I'm worried about Photoshop CS as this required verification similiar to XP. Buy the way both drives have XP on them.

Thanks everyone for the help so far. (in deep water can't swim)


You will have to re-install PS. As far as verification do a call in when the installation wizard promps for it and tell them your old motherboard fried and you are still using the same computer with a new motherboard. I have done this several times. You do need to have the serial to be able to do this but it should be no problem if you have that. All Adobe is worried about is whether you have this licenced copy of PS on more then one computer. They will probably ask you that. Say NO!


I agree. You are going to have too many problems by putting the drive into another PC and then trying to launch Photoshop off of the slave drive.

Just reinstall and call Adobe to verify the install. Tell them you had a hardware problem with your Motherboard and had to reinstall.

Good Luck!!
01/25/2005 09:00:32 PM · #9
Is there no longer a 'backup/restore' command?
Could you not backup the old drive on itself and restore it to the new drive?
01/25/2005 10:01:44 PM · #10
Nah, these peeps are right.

If you are going to have a new drive in the machine and want to reload PS on that machine, then the slave drive will not do what I said before.

The cool thing is that all you really have to do is reload PS on the new drive, enter the serial number and then log onto the adobe site with the activate PS command on the menu.

I have reloaded PS 3 times now, twice on different machines and never once had to actually call Adobe.
01/25/2005 11:56:04 PM · #11
I fyou registered it with PS you should be able to easily get the serial online. Logging in with a user name, etc. All of mine still show up on my list, back to PhotoDeluxe.
They have a record of your number (I have mine in three places on my hard drives) and can verify who you are and then give it to you or email it, etc.
01/26/2005 12:13:24 AM · #12
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:

I fyou registered it with PS you should be able to easily get the serial online. Logging in with a user name, etc. All of mine still show up on my list, back to PhotoDeluxe.
They have a record of your number (I have mine in three places on my hard drives) and can verify who you are and then give it to you or email it, etc.


I don't think that works for CS. The new motherboard gives off a different configuration and the online registration picks up on that.

6 and 7 were easy. Try it that way, but you will probably have to call in.

By the way you can re-load PS back to the slave drive it was on and it will work fine. In fact it may speed your computer when working in PS a little that way.
01/26/2005 01:39:47 AM · #13
It depends on the operating system you have. If your going fromwindows 98 to windows 98 and using the old drive as a master then you will have noproblems. If your upgrading to windows XP it uses a different files system and you will have to reinstall.

If you are keeping the same operating system then you can just ghost the drive and make an exact copy of your old drive and put it onto the new drive.

Apologies for any and all tyos, I'm having severe keyboard issues at this moment.
01/26/2005 02:02:58 AM · #14
Originally posted by notonline:

It depends on the operating system you have. If your going fromwindows 98 to windows 98 and using the old drive as a master then you will have noproblems. If your upgrading to windows XP it uses a different files system and you will have to reinstall.

If you are keeping the same operating system then you can just ghost the drive and make an exact copy of your old drive and put it onto the new drive.

Apologies for any and all tyos, I'm having severe keyboard issues at this moment.


I don't think you can ghost the drive in this situation. The OS installation on the old drive will not be compatible with the bios on the new motherboard.
01/26/2005 02:24:51 AM · #15
Originally posted by nsbca7:

You will have to re-install PS. As far as verification do a call in when the installation wizard promps for it and tell them your old motherboard fried and you are still using the same computer with a new motherboard. I have done this several times. You do need to have the serial to be able to do this but it should be no problem if you have that. All Adobe is worried about is whether you have this licenced copy of PS on more then one computer. They will probably ask you that. Say NO!

Actually, almost all of the current licenses for "high-end" software allow to to have a backup/second copy installed, e.g. one on your office machine and one on your laptop; they figure people will take work home.

What they really don't want is the same copy running on two machines at the same time.

Message edited by author 2005-01-26 02:25:40.
01/26/2005 02:48:47 AM · #16
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

You will have to re-install PS. As far as verification do a call in when the installation wizard promps for it and tell them your old motherboard fried and you are still using the same computer with a new motherboard. I have done this several times. You do need to have the serial to be able to do this but it should be no problem if you have that. All Adobe is worried about is whether you have this licenced copy of PS on more then one computer. They will probably ask you that. Say NO!

Actually, almost all of the current licenses for "high-end" software allow to to have a backup/second copy installed, e.g. one on your office machine and one on your laptop; they figure people will take work home.

What they really don't want is the same copy running on two machines at the same time.


Thanks everyone for the replies this is a steep learning curve for me but what GeneralE has stated has been verified by Adobe you can actually use it on two machines as long as you are the primary user of those two machines and they are not used at the same time.
01/26/2005 02:54:32 AM · #17
Originally posted by keegbow:


Thanks everyone for the replies this is a steep learning curve for me but what GeneralE has stated has been verified by Adobe you can actually use it on two machines as long as you are the primary user of those two machines and they are not used at the same time.


Cool.
01/26/2005 03:28:29 AM · #18
Could always set up the second drive as a dual boot option if no other solutions work.
01/26/2005 03:31:22 AM · #19
Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by keegbow:


Thanks everyone for the replies this is a steep learning curve for me but what GeneralE has stated has been verified by Adobe you can actually use it on two machines as long as you are the primary user of those two machines and they are not used at the same time.


Cool.

No kidding! Else there'd be yet one more dummy on the block ... : )

Message edited by author 2005-01-26 03:31:33.
01/26/2005 03:37:23 AM · #20
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by keegbow:


Thanks everyone for the replies this is a steep learning curve for me but what GeneralE has stated has been verified by Adobe you can actually use it on two machines as long as you are the primary user of those two machines and they are not used at the same time.


Cool.

No kidding! Else there'd be yet one more dummy on the block ... : )


I had a laugh at that also but that is how they stated it.
01/26/2005 03:53:33 AM · #21
It's just practical reality -- the license should really be for the person to use the software, like a driver's license gives you the right to drive, but not just your car.

If you work at the office and take work home, they know they can't get people to buy two (or more) licenses for one person; they'd just encourage "piracy" by their actual customers who want licensed software.
01/26/2005 04:11:23 AM · #22
Originally posted by GeneralE:

It's just practical reality -- the license should really be for the person to use the software, like a driver's license gives you the right to drive, but not just your car.

If you work at the office and take work home, they know they can't get people to buy two (or more) licenses for one person; they'd just encourage "piracy" by their actual customers who want licensed software.


I wish all software was like that. Be great if Microsoft would do that with XP Pro. I just bought a copy of Nortons Internet Security 2005 and had to pay extra for a 3 computer app. Sucks. My son has the hacked version of both plus PS 8, all complete with generated keys. I don't pass judgment or anything but I make it a policy to pay for what I use.
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