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01/16/2005 10:46:32 AM · #1 |
I believe there should be an new rule making commenting on photos mandatory if your vote is from 1 to 4. To me, a 5 is an average photo that you could find browsing thru someone's photobucket or webshots account. If someone feels your photo is below average, wouldn't it only make sense to have mandatory commenting so the photographer has a clue about his/her mistakes. I also believe this would cut down on low votes made in attempt to sway the curve. |
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01/16/2005 10:49:39 AM · #2 |
If you search the forums, you'll notice this has been discussed numerous times already.
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01/16/2005 10:53:10 AM · #3 |
Sorry, guess I misspelled my search terms |
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01/16/2005 10:54:03 AM · #4 |
Forcing people to comment is not going to be the answer. I'd rather just get a 3 than get a 3 and 'snapshot' or 'sucks' for the comment.
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01/16/2005 10:56:01 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by deapee: Forcing people to comment is not going to be the answer. I'd rather just get a 3 than get a 3 and 'snapshot' or 'sucks' for the comment. |
Good point |
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01/16/2005 10:58:25 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by deapee: Forcing people to comment is not going to be the answer. I'd rather just get a 3 than get a 3 and 'snapshot' or 'sucks' for the comment. |
I'd rather get any comment, than no comment. Even 'snapshot' conveys very well what a person didn't like. |
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01/16/2005 10:59:07 AM · #7 |
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01/16/2005 11:02:48 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
I'd rather get any comment, than no comment. Even 'snapshot' conveys very well what a person didn't like. |
No, it conveys that the person didn't like your photo -- which would be evident by seeind a 1, 2, or 3 that you get when voting ends. The comment 'snapshot' does nothing to explain what a person doesn't like about your photo or how to make it better next time.
That comment is just rude and ignorant.
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01/16/2005 11:17:22 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by deapee: No, it conveys that the person didn't like your photo -- which would be evident by seeind a 1, 2, or 3 that you get when voting ends. The comment 'snapshot' does nothing to explain what a person doesn't like about your photo or how to make it better next time.
That comment is just rude and ignorant. |
That would be enough information for me. I would rather know exactly what they didn't like, but 'snapshot' means they didn't like overall appeal of the shot and/or technical shortcomings. Which is fine by me.
And i don't necessarily need to know how to improve it. Tell me what you don't like, i'll think myself how to make it better. Unless you have a very solid idea of what could be improved.
Seriously, i wouldn't find that rude, and even if i would, it would still be helpful in the study of mass appeal of the shot. |
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01/16/2005 11:24:21 AM · #10 |
No amount of comments you get, however detailed, are going to help you become better without putting the thought and consideration and time into it yourself. I sometimes get the feeling that some people think there might be some means of taking good photographs by numbers - like it's just a tehnique.
Now there are a bunch of technical things that can help you score well here, and there are a number of subject areas that do well and others that don't. But in the end, only careful thought about those comments you do get, thought about your final score and placing, thoughts about the relevance of what you're trying to do in your photography to DPC, and thoughts about whether your message is one that will or will not score here, are the ways to learn more. It's difficult, but it certainly pays off.
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01/16/2005 12:10:11 PM · #11 |
Write your own serious critique about your own photo before you enter it!
Did I compose it right, are there elements that disturb, is it technically good, is it interesting for someone besides myself, are there ways that I think I could improve it? These are basically things that the photographer should already be busy with when he pushes the shutter button!
Why should I help someone who doesn't want to help himself in the first place? Do you think I hand out sub-5 scores because it helps my ego?
There are thousands of books, a zillion helpful sites, a million helpful paintings, a trillion helpful photographs all for grabs and now I have to tell the low scoring photographer that his out of focus, centered, uninteresting, badly lit, grainy, blurry, sucky, sucky, sucky photo can be improved by doing this or that. Sod it!
It is like doing an exam without reading the books and asking the professor afterwards how you can avoid getting a 1 next time. It is like stepping into a formula 1 car for the first time without any experience and asking a regular contender why you spinned at the first corner. It is like doing a trip to the Northpole without preparation and asking the pro afterwards why your nose froze off.
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