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01/11/2005 12:02:40 PM · #1
Curious to know how people consider their own equipment when voting.

Soft image
Dark, bright, contrasty
Color

I'm not complaining about any comments, as I have not seen many about this. Recently, I did get one about image sharpness that made me think about this. My new, calibrated (Monaco Optix) monitor shows the image tack sharp and spot on, colorwise, when I look at the same image on a 3 year old, medium quality monitor at work, it definately does not look as good.

When you look at images, do you consider that your own equipment may not be accurately representing the image that you are judging?

Just curious.

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01/11/2005 12:10:14 PM · #2
Originally posted by Gatorguy:



When you look at images, do you consider that your own equipment may not be accurately representing the image that you are judging?

Just curious.


I worry more that others are not seeing an accurate representation of my image. I do, however, often wonder if I am viewing another's image as they see it, since not all, I assume, have calibrated monitors.

Mine is.

Yours is.

Is theirs?
01/11/2005 01:36:26 PM · #3
It's a crapshoot. An absolute, total, spit-in-the-wind crapshoot. If I've learned one thing in all my wanderings, it's that there's NO way to even guess what others are seeing. I've looked at DPC from 6 other households since joining, and not ONE of them had a decently calibrated monitor, and my images looed so bad I wanted to weep.

A few of these places had decent monitors to work with, and I did a quick calibration, and they looked dandy then.

I really worry about the folks who are WORKING with bad and/or badly calibrated monitors; they spend a lot of time making their image look good on their screen, and they don't even have an inkling that to those of us with a decent setup it's way too contrasty and oversharpened.

I've often wondered if it would be possible for the SC to put up a calibration page, a full-screen image containing color patches, grayscale, a portrait, and a lanfscape, so the members could use the page for rough calibration. It could be prominently mentioned on the hiome page: "Calibration is critical: go here FIRST and set your monitor up, please!"

Robt.

01/11/2005 01:42:16 PM · #4
For anyone reading this and wanting monitor calibration assistance, JASC (maker of Paint Shop Pro) has a nice helper tool at: //www.jasc.com/support/kb/articles/monitor.asp
01/11/2005 02:18:33 PM · #5
I use a work pc to judge and a home pc to edit. Neither are calibrated. The work one will not calibrate. My home pc well i've tried a couple of times but couldn't get it right.
01/11/2005 03:13:24 PM · #6
Originally posted by bear_music:

It's a crapshoot. An absolute, total, spit-in-the-wind crapshoot. If I've learned one thing in all my wanderings, it's that there's NO way to even guess what others are seeing. I've looked at DPC from 6 other households since joining, and not ONE of them had a decently calibrated monitor, and my images looed so bad I wanted to weep.

A few of these places had decent monitors to work with, and I did a quick calibration, and they looked dandy then.

I really worry about the folks who are WORKING with bad and/or badly calibrated monitors; they spend a lot of time making their image look good on their screen, and they don't even have an inkling that to those of us with a decent setup it's way too contrasty and oversharpened.

I've often wondered if it would be possible for the SC to put up a calibration page, a full-screen image containing color patches, grayscale, a portrait, and a lanfscape, so the members could use the page for rough calibration. It could be prominently mentioned on the hiome page: "Calibration is critical: go here FIRST and set your monitor up, please!"

Robt.


I think that would be an excellent idea
01/11/2005 03:22:42 PM · #7
One thing to remember, those people who are viewing & judging pictures through an un-calibrated monitor, or have an old monitor and graphics card, is viewing all the pictures the same. It's not like picking one picture out on old equipment and giving it a low score, then viewing all the rest of the pictures through a different system. Sure, it's not what you or I see, or want to be seen, but it is at an equal playing field for all the picture they view.
01/11/2005 03:43:10 PM · #8
Collins,

That's realtively true as far as their VOTING goes, but their images may be being downgraded by voters with good systems because they are oversaturated and/or oversharpened. These folks get frustrated because they read the comments, then look at what they see ont heir own monitor, and the correlation is tenuous at best.

Robt.

01/11/2005 04:55:15 PM · #9
This brings up another thought.
(which should probably be started as a new thread)
It would be really interesting to see who is voting, and how many people are actively submitting pictures who vote, and those who vote who never submit a picture that only want to criticize the work of others. The report should only show the members name, and the number of votes & comments made for the challenge, along with a field that shows active or non-active.
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