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01/05/2005 02:12:41 PM · #1 |
Ok,try this !
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01/05/2005 02:23:56 PM · #2 |
Yes, try that! :)
In Holland we have GSM SMS actions, television shows, direct money transfers to one bank account that distributes to several organisations etc. On a local level there are many, many actions as well. It is good to see so much involvement.
Message edited by author 2005-01-05 14:41:31.
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01/05/2005 02:25:30 PM · #3 |
| i think it's rude to ask. i think it's more rude to tell. |
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01/05/2005 02:30:11 PM · #4 |
I don't think Kosta was trying to be rude, but rather trying to encourage others to give.
My church will be taking up an offering this Sunday. |
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01/05/2005 03:06:50 PM · #5 |
Why rude to ask? Some of the best artist and photographers had to ask for help with funding to get projects done, educated, travel to destinations of work, or to obtain supplies and equipment. Man if I could just get my ducks in a row with my plans and projects that I want to accomplish then I would certainly muster up the courage to ask for help.
Its a wonderfull thing to see people helping others even globally right now because its setting an example to all the negative, war, and crimes, that are going on. Its very peacefull to know that there are others willing to be there for what ever it may be in need of.
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01/05/2005 03:13:26 PM · #6 |
I'm giving a little extra, but I hope people gave money to aid organizations before this event.
Read carefully:
The tsunami disaster happened 10 days ago. Total dead number about 155,000 and growing.
Since that day, 240,000 - 310,000 have died of hunger or hunger-related illness. 80,000 have died of AIDS. 50,000 have died of diarrhoea due to bad water. All in the last 10 days.
The tsunami event was a disaster. A disaster among many daily disasters that most people don't know about.
The disgusting thing is that CNN makes loads of money off of this one, which is why we all hear about it. Nobody cares about everyday death in the world...a big frickin' wave, now that's news!
People say it's the worst thing that's happened in this generation.
Wrong.
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01/05/2005 03:31:54 PM · #7 |
$5 so far, but my husband & I are really not doing well right now financially. So, our family didn't even all get presents for the holidays. We didn't get each other anything either. But we may try to donate more soon.
In the meantime, I got this email:
I got an email with the following:
Oggetto: Nobody knows who this boy belongs to!
Please send this to all - we mean all! - the people in your entire network.
Looking for his family.
The boy about 2 years, from Khoa Lak is missing his parents. Nobody
knows what country he comes from. If anyboy known him please contact us by
phone 076-249400-4 ext. 1336, 1339 or e- mail: info@phuket-inter-hospital.co.th
I posted the photo here. Can you see it?
//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mirdonamy/album?.dir=mail&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mirdonamy/my_photos
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01/05/2005 03:32:43 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by tolovemoon:
Why rude to ask? |
It is not rude to ask for help, this was about asking 'how much'. The posts have been edited because of that part of the discussion.
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01/05/2005 03:41:08 PM · #9 |
It's a great original post, the thread name is misleading, but overall a good one.
P.S. Biblically speaking it's wrong/sinful to discuss your good deeds (ie how much you donate, that you read to the blind, etc etc).
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01/05/2005 04:00:07 PM · #10 |
Huh wrong, boasting or brag maybe but not to share, spread the word, and give praise compliments for good.
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
It's a great original post, the thread name is misleading, but overall a good one.
P.S. Biblically speaking it's wrong/sinful to discuss your good deeds (ie how much you donate, that you read to the blind, etc etc). |
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01/05/2005 04:04:45 PM · #11 |
Give your money here aswell //www.doctorswithoutborders.org/
And cloudoutthere, very true. This tsunami was a horrible terrible thing, but it was an act of nature and was not the fault of any other human or could have been prevented.
In 1994, 800,000 Rwandans were killed in 100 days mostly via machete and including women and children. No country interviened and it was hardly reported at all.
This is something that could have been helped but was ignored because of the area and people it involved.
If your interested in the subject I suggest this Pulitzer Prize winning book "A Problem from Hell" : America and the Age of Genocide
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01/05/2005 04:21:19 PM · #12 |
Thanks for the book recommendation, I'll look into it!
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01/05/2005 04:25:16 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
...In 1994, 800,000 Rwandans were killed in 100 days mostly via machete and including women and children. No country interviened and it was hardly reported at all.
This is something that could have been helped but was ignored because of the area and people it involved.
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There were Canadian Peacekeepers there and they were abandoned by the UN. Romeo Dallaire the Canadian General in charge then, went into deep depression because his hands were tied and he was not allowed to intervene. The blame rests fully on Kofi Anan, I blame him and the UN for just standing by.
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01/05/2005 04:27:48 PM · #14 |
Iâm not going to say itâs rude to ask but I feel it is inappropriate. What does it do to let others know what you have given? All it does is make this a, âI gave more that you gave game imo.â I just donât find boasting how much or little you gave is appropriate. $5.00 to one person may be more out of his or her pocket percentage wise that someone that has given $1000. I donât want recognition for giving, I just want it to help in there time of tragedy.
Message edited by author 2005-01-05 16:30:13.
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01/05/2005 04:32:41 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by doctornick:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
...In 1994, 800,000 Rwandans were killed in 100 days mostly via machete and including women and children. No country interviened and it was hardly reported at all.
This is something that could have been helped but was ignored because of the area and people it involved.
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There were Canadian Peacekeepers there and they were abandoned by the UN. Romeo Dallaire the Canadian General in charge then, went into deep depression because his hands were tied and he was not allowed to intervene. The blame rests fully on Kofi Anan, I blame him and the UN for just standing by. |
One person canât be to blame for that, I blame all nations that had power to do something and didnât and continue to ignore these genocides. As we type this and every 'news' channel shows tsunami destruction; nobody is showing all thatâs happening in Africa and other poor nations.
That is great Dallaire tried to do something though. At least one nation leader cared.
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01/05/2005 04:33:08 PM · #16 |
I don't think it should be sinful to discuss these things. People can react to their peers positively, so it's useful sometimes to know what benchmarks are out there.
Instead of asking people for single pound/euro/dollar the charities and governments should take a harder line and challenge people's comfort zone a bit more. It's easy for us to feel that we've done our bit by dropping a few coins of loose change in a box when really they could afford to do a whole lot more.
I donated to the tsunami crisis instead of buying a DVD recorder (which I've waited ages to get). I also donate monthly to cancer and African charities. Granted, I'm not totally strapped for cash - there are always pressures, but I believe that my struggles are infinitley less than so many others'.
I hope this doesn't sound aloof or disrespectful at all - but I always found that the best fundraisers are those who don't handle people with kid gloves and simply get stuck in!
Incidentally, I think the shock factor is what many of us are touched by with the tsunami disaster. Whole families, homes & businesses - gone in an instant. The third world crisis is indeed man-made but it makes it more complex and time consuming to solve due to government corruption (just look at Iraq) and greedy western nations. It's no reason not to react swiftly to help other sufferers who've all experienced sudden deaths and life-change in such a short space of time.
Instead of filtering our donations to other needs I believe we have to give yet more - it's the only fair way forward.
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01/05/2005 05:01:01 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Originally posted by doctornick:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
...In 1994, 800,000 Rwandans were killed in 100 days mostly via machete and including women and children. No country interviened and it was hardly reported at all.
This is something that could have been helped but was ignored because of the area and people it involved.
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There were Canadian Peacekeepers there and they were abandoned by the UN. Romeo Dallaire the Canadian General in charge then, went into deep depression because his hands were tied and he was not allowed to intervene. The blame rests fully on Kofi Anan, I blame him and the UN for just standing by. |
One person canât be to blame for that, I blame all nations that had power to do something and didnât and continue to ignore these genocides. As we type this and every 'news' channel shows tsunami destruction; nobody is showing all thatâs happening in Africa and other poor nations.
That is great Dallaire tried to do something though. At least one nation leader cared. |
I don't think now is the time to point fingers about which causes are covered by the media and which are not. There are people who desperately need all the help the world can offer right now, and the world is trying. Why taint their generosity by pointing fingers and trying to lay blame and guilt?
Helping our neighbours, and the world is a global village, so we are all neighbours, is something we can always try to do better, so why blast someone for starting to help by saying they ought to have helped before..they are helping now, and its a good start.
PS: Here is an article from yesterday's globe and mail that i found quite interesting on the topic of donating and guilt:
Goodness and Guilt have Canadians Giving
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01/05/2005 05:01:09 PM · #18 |
GoldBerry - I think it is inappropriate for you to make comments about what is ''wrong/sinful''. Lets just keep religion out of this please
John (Imangineer) - I agree with your comments 100 percent
MadMordegon - Your well known on this site for your views on 'the establishment' - please do not use this thread to this end.
Edit for spelling - appologies
Thanks
Mike
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01/05/2005 05:04:09 PM · #19 |
| At least spell my name right. |
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01/05/2005 05:09:26 PM · #20 |
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01/05/2005 05:13:26 PM · #21 |
Mad - I appolgise for spelling your name wrong. I also want to make it clear that I do not agree/disagree with your views, I just dont think its appropriate to air them here.
Cheers
Mike
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01/05/2005 05:17:09 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by MikeOwens:
Mad - I appolgise for spelling your name wrong. I also want to make it clear that I do not agree/disagree with your views, I just dont think its appropriate to air them here.
Cheers
Mike |
I appreciate your clarification. I did not bring the subject up though; but I understand why you chose to single me out.
Check out my above link though; a true sign of giving, giving all.
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01/05/2005 05:26:41 PM · #23 |
I got this email today. It's from our corporation. Thought some may find some useful links.
Dear Colleagues,
The national service family is saddened by the tragic loss of life and
devastation resulting from the earthquake and tsunami in the Indian
Ocean, and we are grateful to the international organizations engaged in
the relief effort.
As you know, national service resources are devoted to activities in the
United States and cannot be deployed overseas. However, we know many of
you are interested in supporting relief efforts. The most effective way
people can assist relief efforts is by making cash contributions to
humanitarian organizations that are conducting relief operations. The
list below has been provided by the U.S. Agency for International
Development and can be retrieved from their website //www.usaid.gov/locations/asia_near_east/tsunami/ngolist.html
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For more information on the South and Southeast Asia Earthquake and
Tsunamis, please visit
//www.usaid.gov/locations/asia_near_east/tsunami.
VOLUNTEERING
Volunteer opportunities in disaster settings are extremely rare, and are
usually limited to people with prior disaster experience and technical
skills (such as health, engineering, etc). To register your skills and
experience for a possible volunteer opportunity, go to the Center for
International Disaster Information's registration page
//www.cidi.org/datain.htm.
DONATIONS
The most effective way people can assist relief efforts is by making
cash contributions to humanitarian organizations that are conducting
relief operations. USAID encourages cash donations because they: allow
aid professionals to procure the exact items needed (often in the
affected region); reduce the burden on scarce resources (such as
transportation routes, staff time, warehouse space, etc); can be
transferred very quickly and without transportation costs; support the
economy of the disaster-stricken region; ensure culturally, dietary, and
environmentally appropriate assistance. The agencies listed below are
accepting donations for assistance they or their affiliates are
providing to those affected by the earthquake and tsunamis:
Action Against Hunger
247 West 37th Street
New York, NY 10018
212-967-7800
www.actionagainsthunger.org
ADRA International
Asia Tsunami Crisis Fund
12501 Old Columbia Pike
Silver Spring, MD 20904
800-424-ADRA (2372)
www.adra.org
Air Serv International
6583 Merchant Place, Suite 100
Warrenton, VA 20187
540-428-2323
www.airserv.org
American Friends Service Committee
1501 Cherry Street
Philadelphia, PA 19102
215-241-7050
www.afsc.org
American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee, Inc.
JDC-South Asia Tsunami Relief
P.O. Box 321
847A Second Avenue
New York, New York 10017
212-885-0832
www.jdc.org
American Jewish World Service
45 W. 36th St., 10th Fl.
New York, NY 10018
212-736-2597
www.ajws.org
American Red Cross
International Response Fund
2025 E St. NW
Washington, DC 20006
800-HELP-NOW
www.redcross.org
AmeriCares
88 Hamilton Ave
Stamford, CT 06902
800-486-4357
www.americares.org
Asha for Education
Tsunami Relief Fund
P.O. Box 322
New York, NY 10040-0322
(646) 526-6164
www.ashanet.org
Baptist World Aid
Asia Tidal Waves
405 North Washington Street
Falls Church, VA 22046
703 790 8980
www.bwanet.org/bwaid
B'nai B'rith International
B'nai B'rith Disaster Relief Fund
2020 K Street NW
7th Floor
Washington, DC 20006
212-490-3290
www.bnaibrith.org
Brother's Brother Foundation
1200 Galveston Ave
Pittsburgh, PA 15233
412-321-3160
www.brothersbrother.org
CARE
151 Ellis Street NE
Atlanta, GA 30303
800-521-CARE
www.care.org
Catholic Relief Services
209 West Fayette Street
Baltimore, MD 21201
877-HELP-CRS
www.catholicrelief.org
Christian Children's Fund
Child Alert Fund
PO Box 26484
Richmond, Virginia - 23261-6484
800-776-6767
www.ChristianChildrensFund.org
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee (CRWRC)
South Asia Earthquake
2850 Kalamazoo Ave. SE
Grand Rapids, MI, 49560
800-55-CRWRC
www.crwrc.org
Church World Service
PO Box 968
Elkhart, IN 46515
800-297-1516
www.churchworldservice.org
Direct Relief International
27 South La Patera Lane
Santa Barbara, CA 93117
805-964-4767
www.directrelief.org
Episcopal Relief and Development
South Asia Relief Fund
815 Second Avenue
New York, NY 10017
800-334-7626, ext. 5129
www.er-d.org
Food for the Hungry, Inc.
Food for the Hungry
Asia Quake Relief
1224 E. Washington St.
Phoenix, AZ 85034
800-2-HUNGERS
www.fh.org
Habitat for Humanity International
Asia Tsunami Response Fund
121 Habitat St
Americus, GA 31709
229-924-6935
www.habitat.org
International Aid
17011 W. Hickory
Spring Lake, MI 49456
800-968-7490
www.internationalaid.org
International Medical Corps
Tsunami Emergency Response
1919 Santa Monica Blvd., Suite 300
Santa Monica, CA 90404-1950
800-481-4462
www.imcworldwide.org
International Relief Teams
Asia Earthquake/Floods
3547 Camino Del Rio South, Suite C
San Diego, CA 92108
619-284-7979
www.IRTeams.org
International Rescue Committee
PO Box 5058
Hagerstown, MD 21741-9874
877-REFUGEE or 733-8433
www.theIRC.org
Latter-Day Saint Charities
Welfare Services Emergency Response
50 East North Temple Street, Room 701
Salt Lake City, Utah, 84150-6800
801-240-3544
www.lds.org/humanitarian
Lutheran World Relief
South Asia Tsunami
700 Light Street
Baltimore, MD 21230
410-230-2700
www.lwr.org
MAP International
P.O. Box 215000
Brunswick, GA 31521
800-225-8550
www.map.org
Mercy Corps
Southeast Asia Earthquake
Dept. W
PO Box 2669
Portland, OR 97208-2669
800-852-2100
www.mercycorps.org
Operation Blessing International
Asia Earthquake and Tsunami Relief
977 Centerville Turnpike Virginia Beach, VA 23463
1-800-730-2537
www.ob.org
Operation USA
8320 Melrose Ave. #200
Los Angeles, CA 90069
800-678-8876
www.opusa.org
Oxfam America
Asian Earthquake Fund
PO Box 1211
Albert Lea, MN 56007-1211
800-77-OXFAM
www.oxfamamerica.org
Pan American Health and Education Foundation
Asia Tsunami Relief Fund
525 Twenty Third St, NW
Washington, DC 20037
202-974-3416
www.pahef.org
Plan USA
Asia Disaster
155 Plan Way
Warwick, RI 02886
800-556-7918
www.planusa.org
Project Concern International
5151 Murphy Canyon Road Suite 320
San Diego, CA 92123
858-279-9690
www.projectconcern.org
Project HOPE
Asia Tsunami Response
255 Carter Hall Lane
Millwood, VA 22646
800-544-4673
www.projecthope.org
SAWSO (Salvation Army World Service Office)
South Asia Relief Fund
615 Slaters Lane
Alexandria, VA, 22313
800-SAL-ARMY
Save the Children USA
54 Wilton Road
Westport, CT 06880
1-800-728-3843
www.savethechildren.org
Stop Hunger Now
SE Asia Crisis
2501 Clark Ave, Suite 200
Raleigh, NC 27607
888-501-8440
www.stophungernow.org
US Fund for UNICEF
General Emergency Fund
333 E. 38th Street
New York, NY 10016
800-4-UNICEF
www.unicefusa.org
World Concern
Asia Earthquake and Tsunami
19303 Fremont Avenue North
Seattle, WA 98133
800-755-5022
www.worldconcern.org
World Emergency Relief
2270-D Camino Vida Roble
Carlsbad, CA 92009
760-930-8001
www.worldemergencyrelief.org
World Relief
SE Asia Earthquake/Tsunamis
7 E Baltimore St
Baltimore MD 21202
800-535-5433
www.worldrelief.org
World Vision
P.O. Box 70288
Tacoma, WA 98481-0288
800-56-CHILD
www.worldvision.org
(This list is provided by USAID and can be retrieved from their website
//www.usaid.gov/locations/asia_near_east/tsunami/ngolist.html.
Please check back at this site for updates.)
Posted by:
Senior Program Officer
Senior Corps
Corporation for National and Community Service
1201 New York Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20525
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01/05/2005 06:11:55 PM · #24 |
Apparently until January 11th, 2005 the Canadian Govt will match dollars with donations by Canadians.
Link
If you choose to give and you live in Canada perhaps this would be a way to make your donation have double the financial impact.
Kev |
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01/05/2005 06:33:59 PM · #25 |
Yes that's true about the Canadian government.
All donations will be matched.
If you don't have money to give there are other ways to help out like volunteer to help manage donations or even make posters to go around. I made a few posters for our school's donation thing going on, it's really nice to see people responding to it.
Every dollar counts!
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