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01/02/2005 08:11:06 PM · #26
Originally posted by mavrik:

Originally posted by Konador:

Originally posted by carlos:

found very few sites which don't load properly on Firefox. Actually, I don't care about them! ;-)

DPC doesn't load properly on Firefox :P

*chuckle*
Neither does my site.

I meant strange sites doing weird active-X things and the like :P

Sorry, I don't want to start a flame war, but DPC loads OK for me! I must use IE at my corporate computer and I can't tell it looks different with FF. I'll double check next time.

Mavrik , yours does load ok now, isn't it? I've been browsing through it without a glitch.

Edit: edited for clarity and spelling

Message edited by author 2005-01-02 20:26:11.
01/02/2005 08:20:23 PM · #27
Weird; DPC (and evberything else I try) works just dandy on firefox, and my mousing is zippity-doo-dah fast too...

Robt.

01/02/2005 08:36:52 PM · #28
hmmm.... I been thinking bout switching to FF on this box, have already on the laptop, but this thread got me to thinking> It's time to start redeveloping my websites for IE AND FF browsing, cuz it really is becoming the browser of choice.
01/02/2005 08:36:55 PM · #29
Originally posted by Konador:

100% of sites don't work under firefox... that's poor! :P
You might want to review your code then. I've recently developed an enterprise JSP application that extensively uses CSS1 and a little CSS2 and, for the most part, Firefox is the superior browser when it comes to rendering CSS elements properly, a major advantage over Explorer. Just keep using it, it's better.
01/02/2005 08:50:58 PM · #30
Do all of you have dial up? Has anyone tried this with a cable modem?
01/02/2005 08:53:35 PM · #31
Yahoo.. I love firefox and now,, well I'm actually thinking of just dumping IE. Except for a few dated sites FF works just dandy, I'm actually using it exclusively to as my test browser for any web work I do. Thanks for the tip. It did make a difference.
01/02/2005 09:08:56 PM · #32
Wendy,

I'm running FF on Comcast cable, works terrific. Much faster with this tweak.

Robt.
01/02/2005 09:10:45 PM · #33
Originally posted by Konador:

Originally posted by carlos:

found very few sites which don't load properly on Firefox. Actually, I don't care about them! ;-)


DPC doesn't load properly on Firefox :P


Why do you say that Ben? I use FF exclusively (windows laptop) and it loads just fine.

Dave
01/02/2005 09:14:17 PM · #34
I've justinstalled Firefox today, and have been punding it pretty hard doing some SC-related work. I have yet to hit a site all afternoon that is badly mishandled, and DPC seems absolutely fine.
I just did the tweak, and holy cow, what a difference! Initially it seemed a little more responsive than IE, but now it SMOKES!
01/02/2005 11:49:57 PM · #35
Just out of curiousity, what will this do to a site like DPC? If a couple of hundred people hit a voting page at the same time tonite at midnite and are using this speed fix...

01/03/2005 10:47:36 AM · #36
Originally posted by TooCool:

Just out of curiousity, what will this do to a site like DPC? If a couple of hundred people hit a voting page at the same time tonite at midnite and are using this speed fix...

Well, I hope they have the Apache server properly configured so it limits the maximun number of childs which the server spawns to match the available bandwidth (MaxClients, MaxKeepAliveRequests et al.). Technically speaking, the whole payload has to be delivered anyway, using this tweak you only happen to request it "in a bunch" so the server has to deliver faster (use more bandwidth), but the total data amount is exactly the same. In the worst case scenario, ie, no more bandwidth available, you'll have to wait for the data as you do now, first came, first served.

It's important too that you're also instructing FF to start rendering the page as soon as any data is received, so you will find it more responsive, even though all the data needed for rendering hasn't been received yet, you'll see something on your screen quicker.

Hope I've been able to explain it properly.
Carlos.
01/03/2005 10:53:47 AM · #37
I have been using firefox for a few months now - no issues, or certainly less than IE. (running 1.7.5 on XP Pro). No site incompatibility at all.

I did hte link below, and made the tweaks in about:config and yes-sirree, it do be faster. snappier, more responsive.

Now then, where is the patch for my car? I wanna run with the Porsches!
01/03/2005 11:01:23 AM · #38
insane :>
01/03/2005 08:45:51 PM · #39
For it to load that much faster than the other browsers on the same speed dialup, etc., you have to be losing something. What is it? Have they released how it works in laymans terms?
My biggest question is IMAGE QUALITY? That is usually the first thing they target because they are always the largest files. I know AOL had done something like this with image files quite awhile ago..SUCKED!
Not that I care too mmuch...I use Safari. Just wondering on the voting side.

Message edited by author 2005-01-03 20:46:52.
01/03/2005 08:54:00 PM · #40
In layman's terms - it downloads multiple sources at once instead of doing them one at a time in order. It's like Shareaza or Kazaa how they download more than one part of a file at a time - same theory.

M
01/03/2005 09:20:10 PM · #41
Ever since i did the tweak, the shift+refresh command doesn't clear my cache anymore. I was updating my website, and it kept showing me the cached version. I had to go in and manually clear it in the options menu. I was almost at the point of diving through my closed window with my puter strapped to my head.

anyone figure out why, and/or how to fix it without just undoing the tweak?
01/03/2005 10:01:21 PM · #42
Originally posted by Pedro:

Ever since i did the tweak, the shift+refresh command doesn't clear my cache anymore. I was updating my website, and it kept showing me the cached version. I had to go in and manually clear it in the options menu. I was almost at the point of diving through my closed window with my puter strapped to my head.

anyone figure out why, and/or how to fix it without just undoing the tweak?


I had this happen as well, but only once. I would also be interested in anyone's hypothesis as to why this might occur, since I do not have a clue.
01/03/2005 10:08:21 PM · #43
umm...im just guessing here but it might be worth a shot...

make sure your updated (v1.0), or, some people have reported having problems with it until they shutdown firefox and start it up again.

also make sure your hitting Ctrl+Shift+R ...thats the command for forced refresh in firefox.

EDIT: realized something

Message edited by author 2005-01-03 22:13:58.
01/03/2005 11:36:07 PM · #44
Originally posted by maxj:

umm...im just guessing here but it might be worth a shot...

make sure your updated (v1.0), or, some people have reported having problems with it until they shutdown firefox and start it up again.

also make sure your hitting Ctrl+Shift+R ...thats the command for forced refresh in firefox.

EDIT: realized something


i do have the upgraded version, so it's not that. I think i tried every possible key combination, Ctrl+chift+R included. of course when it comes to web design i'm a complete noob, so it wasn't so readily apparent what the problem was. i assumed i'd messed up my Dreamweaver settings. whadda doof. I've restarted a few times since, and still having the problem. either way i know how to fix it now, but would accept an easier method if someone has one.

doesn't F5 do it in IE? i don't use it so i don't really know...

thanks for trying fellas.
01/04/2005 02:08:53 AM · #45
aaaw ,man it dont work for dialup wish I understood that kind of code better :) oh well Firefox is the fastest over IE any day with dial up....
01/04/2005 07:29:56 AM · #46
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:

For it to load that much faster than the other browsers on the same speed dialup, etc., you have to be losing something. What is it? Have they released how it works in laymans terms?

you loose nothing! you're just making the most of your available speed downloading several files at once. That's why the faster the connection, the more you'll notice the speed increase. It's like having (and using) more lanes on a highway.

Originally posted by Pedro:

Ever since i did the tweak, the shift+refresh command doesn't clear my cache anymore.

It works OK for me, I don't have a page I could modify and download again and again to check, but whenever I do "F5", "shift-ctrl-R" or "shift-reload" it takes longer than just hitting "reload".

To me it doesn't have anything to do with the tweak, I mean, with this you're only telling FF how not when to download the files composing the page. Anyway, the quickest way to check it would be undo the tweak and check again.

Message edited by author 2005-01-04 08:36:24.
01/04/2005 07:41:31 AM · #47
Worked awesome with FF1.0 on fedora core 3.

Lightning fast now :)

Thanks
01/04/2005 07:49:29 AM · #48
yowza!! cooool.... damn fast ^^ thanks
01/04/2005 09:03:00 AM · #49
I did the changes, but I can't see any notable difference. Did I do something wrong? I have a 256kb DSL connection.
01/04/2005 09:47:45 AM · #50
Worked for me - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0 is my FF version info

F5 will refresh teh page, not read form the cache. works for me.
There is a blue arrow recycle looking button o the menu bar taht does it too.
shift-ctrl-R works as well, although i never used it. i almost always use teh recycle (reload?) botton.

gloda - can't say whether or not you did it right, as i wasn't there to watch you - go back and see if the settings are now the way they should be.

where you will notice the difference most is on pages with lots of pictures, like on a challenge voting page.
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