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01/01/2005 09:34:51 PM · #101 |
Originally posted by deapee:
OK guys...it's quite clear, the rest of the world dislikes America. That's perfectly fine. |
Not perfectly fine with this American.
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01/01/2005 09:36:15 PM · #102 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by deapee:
OK guys...it's quite clear, the rest of the world dislikes America. That's perfectly fine. |
Not perfectly fine with this American. |
Nor this one. |
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01/01/2005 09:40:03 PM · #103 |
Originally posted by grandmarginal:
Originally posted by frychikn:
...It goes without saying that in the majority of foreign countries (Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, China, Egypt, Israel, etc.) I wouldn't dare attempt to take photographs on my own at all. |
Have you ever been to those countries or do you base that feeling on what the american medias report. Truth is, everyday, thousands of people (from all around the world) do take pictures in those countries and make it without a scratch. But the news don't (sic) talk about them... That does not sell, that does not worry, that doesn't keep you glued to your TV screen waiting to see just how bad those countrys are and thereby sell you all kind of junk advertised during those reports.
That formula also works in Canada. The differance (sic), in Canada, is that they don't use fear to keep the economy running... |
I have never been to those countries I have mentioned. How about you? Have you ever gone to a totalitarian country, and without advance clearance from any authorities, just walked down the street all alone snapping pictures at will? If you have, then by all means post them here and share them with the rest of us. I would also be quite interested in a link or two describing and showing the work of the 'thousands' of free-lance amateur photographers who freely snap pictures unimpeded in places like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.
As to your arrogant stereotyping, believe me NOTHING keeps me glued to the TV screen (except perhaps a good football game!) and TV advertising doesn't sell me shit. |
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01/01/2005 09:43:10 PM · #104 |
Maybe you should ask yourself if the terrorists consider the current American government, and some past governments, to be terrorists in their own right, and if so, why. Maybe you should ask if the insurgents in Iraq are not appeasing those they deem to be terrorist.
Originally posted by photodude:
What would be the better policy? Appease the terrorists? Chamberlain tried that in 1939, it doesn't work.
I will agree that Iraq was a poor choice of places to deploy resources, but US troops in the middle east is something that the islamic terrorists better get used to. The ability to have american armor and troops in almost any middle eastern city in a week or less is a nice feeling. After 9/11 there is no going back |
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01/01/2005 09:48:20 PM · #105 |
| The US does not operate as a terrorist nation. We do not randomly target civilians. If we acted in that manner we could flatten the whole place and just move on |
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01/01/2005 09:52:33 PM · #106 |
Originally posted by photodude:
The US does not operate as a terrorist nation. We do not randomly target civilians. If we acted in that manner we could flatten the whole place and just move on |
That's my idea...just flatten everyone. I'm sick and tired of listening to other counrties who envy the US point out every little thing they think is wrong with us. Just level them all I say.
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01/01/2005 09:53:44 PM · #107 |
Originally posted by photodude:
The US does not operate as a terrorist nation. We do not randomly target civilians. If we acted in that manner we could flatten the whole place and just move on |
The Iraqui 'insurgents' do not randomly target civilians either. They DELIBERATLY target civilians. |
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01/01/2005 09:54:44 PM · #108 |
Originally posted by frychikn:
As to your arrogant stereotyping, believe me NOTHING keeps me glued to the TV screen (except perhaps a good football game!) and TV advertising doesn't sell me shit. |
I don't see how that is arrogant. I really don't. Canadians consume just as much TV as you guys.
Again... This discussion is not about you. It's about the majority of citizens... That's how discussions like these turn sour. We talk about large amounts of people... and there's always someone to ask: "What the hell did he say about me?"
I wasn't talking about you buddy! I don't know you and because of that I would never make a comment about you
Message edited by author 2005-01-01 21:57:16.
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01/01/2005 09:59:48 PM · #109 |
Yeah, "flattening," that's the answer...
You may think the US hasn't acted as a terrorist government, but there are many to disagree with you from all over the world...not just Muslims in Arab countries. |
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01/01/2005 09:59:56 PM · #110 |
Originally posted by photodude:
The US does not operate as a terrorist nation. We do not randomly target civilians... |
Say what? All those bombing in Irak... You think the missiles only kill the bad people?
Message edited by author 2005-01-01 22:00:15.
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01/01/2005 10:01:31 PM · #111 |
Originally posted by grandmarginal:
I wasn't talking about you buddy! I don't know you and because of that I would never make a comment about you |
You don't know America, but you will make comments about it as a whole. All you know is what works its way over to your country on national airways. Personally, you can say whatever you want about me -- that's your opinion. I just get mad when people make a general statement directed towards ALL Americans or ALL of a country just because of one's views on a few aspects of that country.
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01/01/2005 10:02:29 PM · #112 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Originally posted by photodude:
The US does not operate as a terrorist nation. We do not randomly target civilians. If we acted in that manner we could flatten the whole place and just move on |
That's my idea...just flatten everyone. I'm sick and tired of listening to other counrties who envy the US point out every little thing they think is wrong with us. Just level them all I say. |
How about... Just leaving them alone? Leave their country and let them decide what kind of regime they want with the culture and values they have?
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01/01/2005 10:05:57 PM · #113 |
Leaving them alone puts us at risk. They are tribes in a terrorist cult. How long would it be until they put a small nuclear device on a freighter and sail it into NY or some other harbor.
No thanks, they have had free reign for 30 years... No More!!! |
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01/01/2005 10:06:11 PM · #114 |
Originally posted by deapee:
That's my idea...just flatten everyone. I'm sick and tired of listening to other counrties who envy the US point out every little thing they think is wrong with us. Just level them all I say. |
People say this but then they dont understand the disconnect they have between statements like this and understanding why the world dislikes much of America.
Wake up. |
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01/01/2005 10:07:48 PM · #115 |
Originally posted by grandmarginal:
Originally posted by deapee:
Originally posted by photodude:
The US does not operate as a terrorist nation. We do not randomly target civilians. If we acted in that manner we could flatten the whole place and just move on |
That's my idea...just flatten everyone. I'm sick and tired of listening to other counrties who envy the US point out every little thing they think is wrong with us. Just level them all I say. |
How about... Just leaving them alone? Leave their country and let them decide what kind of regime they want with the culture and values they have? |
America would have done that. Unfortunately, IRAQ didn't have any control of their own nation. A group of terrorists had complete control of their country -- and we put an end to that.
People were beheaded in the streets. Men sat and watched as members of that terrorist organization came into their homes and raped their wives right infront of their faces.
Don't sit here and tell me that America not being a coward and stepping up to do something about the horrible treatment of PEOPLE is wrong. There's such a thing as going to far -- maybe we've gone too far, but there's also such a thing as not going far enough -- which canada is definately guilty of.
What do you have to be proud to live in canada for? What has canada done? What interest does anyone have in anything that goes on in canada?
America, on the other hand, has accomplished more than any country in the entire world -- and we've had our downfalls...and we air our problems out there like dirty laundry for the rest of the world to see and ridicule us. And after they're done poking their noses in our business, and they're in need of some help -- who's the first person every country runs to?
(And yes, I called America a country -- please don't correct me in saying it's not -- I think everyone gets the point).
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01/01/2005 10:08:52 PM · #116 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
People say this but then they dont understand the disconnect they have between statements like this and understanding why the world dislikes much of America.
Wake up. |
Learn english or don't speak it!
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01/01/2005 10:10:56 PM · #117 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Originally posted by photodude:
The US does not operate as a terrorist nation. We do not randomly target civilians. If we acted in that manner we could flatten the whole place and just move on |
That's my idea...just flatten everyone. I'm sick and tired of listening to other counrties who envy the US point out every little thing they think is wrong with us. Just level them all I say. |
I know you don't really mean that; you're just upset. The problem when you say something like that is you supply fresh ammunition to the US-bashers. |
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01/01/2005 10:12:16 PM · #118 |
Originally posted by frychikn:
Originally posted by deapee:
Originally posted by photodude:
The US does not operate as a terrorist nation. We do not randomly target civilians. If we acted in that manner we could flatten the whole place and just move on |
That's my idea...just flatten everyone. I'm sick and tired of listening to other counrties who envy the US point out every little thing they think is wrong with us. Just level them all I say. |
I know you don't really mean that; you're just upset. The problem when you say something like that is you supply fresh ammunition to the US-bashers. |
You're right...I'm done participating in this thread. Don't take anything I have said as America's views on anything. They are MY PERSONAL VIEWS not America's.
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01/01/2005 10:13:45 PM · #119 |
Originally posted by grandmarginal:
How about... Just leaving them alone? Leave their country and let them decide what kind of regime they want with the culture and values they have? |
For the first time in recent history they will be allowed to decide what kind of regime, culture and values they will have and it's all because we stepped in! What's the worst thing you can do to a terrorist based organization? Give the people the choice! Why do you think that they keep attacking us now as hard as they do...
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01/01/2005 10:13:46 PM · #120 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Originally posted by grandmarginal:
I wasn't talking about you buddy! I don't know you and because of that I would never make a comment about you |
You don't know America, but you will make comments about it as a whole. All you know is what works its way over to your country on national airways. Personally, you can say whatever you want about me -- that's your opinion. I just get mad when people make a general statement directed towards ALL Americans or ALL of a country just because of one's views on a few aspects of that country. |
I'll tell you what deapee. I have never crossed the border. Never been in the USA. I would love to go because there is a lot of cool things going on in your country that is unique and could not be found elsewhere.
But I do know a lot about it... And what works its way over on national airwaves is a lot right there. Plus all the american litterature, arts, media, movies, internet... You name it!
Canadians know a lot more about Americans than Americans know about Canadians. We are being flooded with your culture here (not that it's a bad thing... Like I said, there is a lot of really cool things in the USA). I could easily name you a hundred great Americans and their work through out history... How many great Canadians and their work can you name living in a country where, like I said, is so rich in culture that it overflows in the rest of the world?
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01/01/2005 10:14:55 PM · #121 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Don't take anything I have said as America's views on anything. They are MY PERSONAL VIEWS not America's. |
And opinions of 'terrorists' are not representing of all the peoples of nations in which they grow.
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01/01/2005 10:15:19 PM · #122 |
Now could the Site Council PLEASE move this discussion to the rant section since a political rant is what this has become...
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01/01/2005 10:16:54 PM · #123 |
Originally posted by TooCool:
Now could the Site Council PLEASE move this discussion to the rant section since a political rant is what this has become... |
delete the whole damn thing
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01/01/2005 10:18:19 PM · #124 |
Originally posted by deapee:
delete the whole damn thing |
Nah...it's fun reading! ;-)
Message edited by author 2005-01-01 22:18:34.
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01/01/2005 10:20:29 PM · #125 |
Due to those who cannot or will not control themselves, and who continue to insist on hijacking threads and turning everything into political rant, this thread is being moved to the Rant Forum.
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