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12/23/2004 01:19:50 PM · #1 |
Stopped by my local inde photo store to look at lenses, primarly canon ones and they had some used and some Tamron used lenses. I asked what they thought about the Tamron and they said they like the PheonixPhoenix brand alot.
I have never heard of them..but they have a 100-400 for $229, new. That got my interest to say the least. Seems abit slow, but better than a teleconverter and not much more money if any. The shop folks spoke very poorly of any TC.
Anyone ever use a Phoenix lens and have any input?
I'd be using this on a Rebel.
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12/23/2004 01:30:55 PM · #2 |
I have read a bit about them and the idea I got was that even though they look like they are designed by plumbers, the optics are pretty good. |
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12/23/2004 01:31:28 PM · #3 |
Phoenix could be third-party lens rebranded and sold by a consortium of stores. My local camera shop has a full line of ProMaster lenses and filters, which are basically rebranded Tamron stuff. Because it's sold in some bulk by the consortium, they can price them a little better, and they get a little kick-back for pushing them. I don't know much about the quality but I know they sell fairly well.
A google search ought to turn up some info on the Phoenix line.
Check this link and search for all occurrences of "phoenix." click
Message edited by author 2004-12-23 13:36:00. |
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12/23/2004 01:59:03 PM · #4 |
I think that Phoenix and Quantaray are actually the same products. I haven't really ever been impressed with Quantaray at all. Before you buy, do a ton of research and/or buy from a source tht has a no-questions return policy and test the bejesus out of it as soon as you get it to make sure it suits your needs.
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12/23/2004 03:22:44 PM · #5 |
Not sure of their return policy, but I can try the lens there on my camera, take the pics home and examine them.
They sell used lenses too...incase i get a body only.
Still torn on the camera bit. If only I had mo' money!
Just to know there are less expensive lens options that are not a total scam is good. I can always upgrade over time, just as i am trying to do now with my camera.
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12/23/2004 04:03:46 PM · #6 |
Funny to see this question JUST as we noticed a Phoenix lens on a photo gear website and wondered what they were like only 10 minutes ago!
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12/23/2004 06:00:25 PM · #7 |
UPdate; it looks like I was incorrect, and Phoenix is the actual manufacturer of their lenses. Lenses from the Phoenix line may be sold under other brands names, however. In particular, they are also sold as Samyang.
They are in the same basic class as Quantaray, Vivitar, etc., however. If you want to make larger prints, you may want to look elsehwhere.
My experience has been that it's normally better to wait and buy higher-quality glass; you will probably grow dissatisfied with a lesser lens quickly. Better lenses tend to hold their value better as well.
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12/23/2004 06:05:42 PM · #8 |
I have the phoenix 19-35 3.5 I bought it about 5 or 6 years ago , I use it as a weight when I go fishing , it is the worst lens ever made ,
trust me !! |
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12/23/2004 07:07:59 PM · #9 |
And yet another update, I knew I had seen a reference to someone else as a manufacturer/supplier to Phoenix. I finally remembered i saw it on Photozone.de, and the reference was to Cosina, who supposedly manufactures for various "OEMs". Note that the manufacturer is not necessarily the designer. Back in the '70's and '80's I think Vivitar had quite a few "contract" manufacturers making the Vivitar-designed lenses.
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