DQ`d for Deja Vu - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

12/23/2004 07:09:07 AM · #1

I`ve just experienced my first taste of the disqualification process with my submission to the "Deja Vu" Challenge.

No complaints..well maybe one, but I`ll come to that later.

The image( a dark parody of David Sidwell`s Waiting for the Elves)had some pinpoints of light showing through the trees, I cloned some out until I was left with the impression of eyes..I then moved a few to areas that I felt needed them for the effect.

This is where my one complaint comes in, I was in doubt as to whether pinpoints of light constituted "major elements" and Pm`d the admin (using "contact us")48hrs in advance of the challenge for advice on the matter..but did not receive an answer.
Still can`t blame anybody except myself, I should have played safe and removed the "offenders".

I`m glad it was in the low sixes score wise!!

I suppose I have the chance to alter it the way I wanted now and stick it in the portfolio.

Thanks to all for the comments and apologies to the two who chose it as a favourite.

Message edited by author 2004-12-23 07:15:02.

hopper

Canon EOS-80D

Canon EF 35mm f/2 IS USM

12/23/2004 07:17:24 AM · #2

I think you reputation as a photographer speaks for itself, Gordon. You tried to check first. Could be worse, you could have been in the mid 8's and got the dq. That would have sucked.

Anyway, congrats on your new DQ!

:)

Gauti

Canon EOS-7D

12/23/2004 07:43:28 AM · #3

Originally posted by hopper:

Anyway, congrats on your new DQ!
:)

Should one count one's DQ's?
Hey you, I've been DQ'ed more often than you, you looser! :)

nova

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L USM

12/23/2004 07:50:59 AM · #4

Hmm, this makes me have second thoughts about my entry for HIDDEN FACES. I also have PM'd the Site Council for advice/validation of my entry. So far no response, but of course it being the holiday season I can understand that. I'll be unsubmitting mine if I don't hear from someone soon, will post the before and after here in that case and hope for some feedback. Thanks for the head's up.

Manic

DJI Mini 3 Pro

Kamlan 28mm F1.4 MF for APS-C

12/23/2004 08:09:38 AM · #5

If you've not heard back from one member of the SC or the admins, please feel free to PM me and I'll pass it on to the others (since I tend to keep on top of my email inbox ;o). If it's critical that you get a response ASAP, then it's probably best to PM the entire SC to ensure that one of us will pick up on it.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

12/23/2004 08:49:19 AM · #6

Originally posted by hopper:

Could be worse, you could have been in the mid 8's and got the dq. That would have sucked.

Kris..I don`t even want to think about that possibility :(

Petur..How could you be so mean..taking away the enjoyment I had from joining the DQ club..one day I`ll be as good at it as you are :)

Ray..I hope yours turns out OK, best of luck

Manic..I`ve got you in my notebook for any future problems :)

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

12/23/2004 09:14:29 AM · #7

Sorry to hear that Gordon. I don't remember your photo, can you post it to your portfolio?

Just for kicks, you might see if you can accomplish the same effect by just changing the colors of some of the leafs. I would think you could get a face effect that way, and it's really not any different than selectively changing colors of smoke to produce an RGB effect, which the site council already ruled on and set a precedent. (Hmmm, it would have been interesting to parady that one...)

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

12/23/2004 09:35:25 AM · #8

Originally posted by nshapiro:

I will post it Neil...No leaves on trees in my part of the world at the moment, plus the fact that this was taken in a pine woods where nothing grows on the branches until you reach ceiling height because of the intense darkness...hence the reason for utilising the pinpoints of light
that were showing through.

Message edited by author 2004-12-23 10:12:57.

peecee

Canon EOS-5D

12/23/2004 12:49:10 PM · #9

Whilst I sympathise with the DQ Gordon I can understand the decision.
It is a super shot, looks like a scene out of some spooky film.
The eyes are a major element in forming the impact of the picture and as such, the DQ.
I would like to see the exif on this one if you feel like divulging,
Great work,
Paul.

Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS for Canon

12/23/2004 01:44:32 PM · #10

Originally posted by peecee:

Whilst I sympathise with the DQ Gordon I can understand the decision.
I would like to see the exif on this one if you feel like divulging,

Paul.

I understand it also Paul..would have appreciated the verdict coming before the challenge started though, then I could have amended it.

Exif details here..

ElGordo

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

12/23/2004 01:48:50 PM · #11

Perhaps we could have a special challenge where major elements can be manipulated. Gordon's DQed entry is superb!

Alecia

Canon EOS-10D

12/23/2004 02:16:15 PM · #12

oh no, gordon, i'm sorry to hear this shot was dq'ed. :( i was 99% sure it was yours, and absolutely loved it. at least you put it in your portfolio, so i can put it back in my faves. :)

peecee

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

12/23/2004 03:17:47 PM · #13

Thanks Gordon,
Sorry again, still an excellent picture for your portfolio,
Merry Christmas to you and your family,
Paul.

alanfreed

Nikon Z9

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

12/23/2004 03:22:29 PM · #14

Originally posted by geewhy:

I understand it also Paul..would have appreciated the verdict coming before the challenge started though, then I could have amended it.

I'm sorry that you didn't get a response soon enough... I would have to suggest that people wanting to get verification like this ahead of time should send a PM to a few members of Site Council, rather than just picking one person (assuming that's what happened here).

I've been on SC for quite a while, and I can honestly say I can only recall one instance where someone dropped me a note to ask an opinion about the legality of a shot. I'm pretty compulsive about checking e-mail, and I would be glad to respond to inquiries and/or pose them to other members of SC if the opportunity arises... but I obviously can't help if I'm not being contacted.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

12/23/2004 03:35:29 PM · #15

Originally posted by alansfreed:

Originally posted by geewhy:
I understand it also Paul..would have appreciated the verdict coming before the challenge started though, then I could have amended it.

I'm sorry that you didn't get a response soon enough... I would have to suggest that people wanting to get verification like this ahead of time should send a PM to a few members of Site Council, rather than just picking one person (assuming that's what happened here).

I've been on SC for quite a while, and I can honestly say I can only recall one instance where someone dropped me a note to ask an opinion about the legality of a shot. I'm pretty compulsive about checking e-mail, and I would be glad to respond to inquiries and/or pose them to other members of SC if the opportunity arises... but I obviously can't help if I'm not being contacted.

Alan, thanks for the response, I don`t want to labour this point as I`m not disputing it in any way.. but to clarify, I sent the query regarding "major elements" to the admin on the Friday evening (my time)before the challenge start date. I used the "Contact us" option, which on reflection may not have been the best choice.
I`ve found out the hard way that should this arise in the future, I will contact as many SC members as possible.

Paul..have a very merry Christmas and a prosperous New year and that greeting goes to all fellow DPC`ers and their families.

Message edited by author 2004-12-23 15:37:11.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

12/23/2004 03:39:33 PM · #16

Also realize we can only offer our personal opinion on the legality of a shot -- sometimes the vote or whether or not to DQ can be quite split.

Just because I tell you I think a shot "ought" to be OK is no guarantee that it won't be DQ'd. You could really ask the same opinion of any other user familiar with the rules ...