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12/19/2004 08:50:23 PM · #1 |
I'd be interested in any thoughts on this - specifically about the noise, which I've largely left in as I think it suits, though I'm in two minds now. To be honest, it's quite a push despite the grad ND, processing-wise, though it would be cleanable with more work.
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12/19/2004 09:20:36 PM · #2 |
I say it's beautiful the way it is. I love the different tones in the sky. It suggests the smoke's thickness. The differant shades of green on the ground is absolutely beautiful.
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12/19/2004 10:50:25 PM · #3 |
| This is a lovely scene that's got terrific color, but with the harsh lighting, deep shadows and forboding sky, I don't think I would call this plesant. Dramatic, yes...moody, yes...but not plesant. I"m not convinced that the noise in the image is truly noise from amplified voltage, but rather a fogginess that may come with shooting with intense backlighting. I like it nonetheless, as you can almost see the ray of sun as it comes in from the left. |
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12/20/2004 06:18:18 AM · #4 |
Oly, the reference is to a hymn called 'Jerusalem', almost a national anthem for some English, whihc includes those words, as well as the phrase 'dark, satanic mills'.
Thanks all for the comments and opinions.
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12/20/2004 09:05:36 AM · #5 |
Great lighting and comp. (of course). Moody editing too, but perhaps a little too heavy in places - grad towards the top left and area at top right look slightly too pushed to me.
This is nit-picking really because you have a superb image here Ed.
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12/20/2004 09:50:09 AM · #6 |
| Excellent! I wouldn't change a thing about it. |
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12/20/2004 11:46:37 AM · #7 |
Wow, what an interesting photo. I love to know more about how you took it and edited it.
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12/20/2004 05:31:15 PM · #8 |
I'll post this here too, whilst thanking everyone for their opinions again, as a number of folks have asked about the process.
Some exif is now in the information section. Fully manual settings on the 5400, as I'd been shooting another subject (about which more later) and so knew what was going on.
As to preparation for the trip ... I found the factory whilst researching a trip to shoot the white horse that I used for the landmark challenge.
I'd seen shot of that somewhere around, I think in a magazine, and was trying to shoot it for the June Free Study (a tale there too - having edited it up I then switched it to the concurrent 'Extraordinary' challenge, completely forgetting that that other challenge was basic editing, and so got DQ'd). The research process was a combination of factors: first stop was the UK ordnance survey site to have a lok at the map, and work out what the lie of the land would be relative to the sun at what time of day. Second to the Wilstshire White Horse organisation to see if they had more precise information about access and perhaps any tourist shots that might help visualise things - that's where I learned about the factory. I reckoned on a three hour drive, and waned to get there around 5:00om to give me three hours until sunset to plaay with. Actually, this shot was taken at 8:22 according to the exif, and was damn nearly the very last light hitting the land that day. The perspective is from exactly the same piece of ground as the Whie Horse shot, just turned 90 degrees left. The White Horse shot that was taken then I'll post at the end of this.
The mistake I made with the landmark entry, and which I feared I would make with these shots, was simply that the weather wasn't quite as I'd hoped. I was looking to combine a vvery dramatic sky with the image of the horse, and to be honest it was heading to be a pretty clear evening - the cloud in this shot is almost all there was in the entire sky. But one thing I have learned is that there's nothing you can do about that in Landscape work - you just have to go right back some other time. What both these shots did get, that I had hoped for also, was that low light across the fields in the plain from an extraordinry perspective.
If I were going back with an ideal set-up, I'd want a lighter graduated ND filter, a polariser, a better camera, a wide-angle equivalent to around 25mm, a 100-or so mm, and some kind of mid prime, I would think.
And finally, the hike is really rather mild. You can drive almost right up to Westbury White Horse, and then it's only about 100 yards or easy walking to this view. If any of you are ever in Wiltshire, it' highly recommended.
My original White Horse:
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12/20/2004 06:51:39 PM · #9 |
 skiprow found e301's reply helpful ;-) |
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12/20/2004 08:15:14 PM · #10 |
| For what it's worth Ed - and anyone who uses grad filters - is that the graduation tends to be too steep showing a clear divide between 'normality' and the filtered effect. This, for me at least, defeats the object of them in the same way that a special effect in a movie can sometimes be obvious, distracting me from the substance of the film. |
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12/20/2004 08:39:32 PM · #11 |
well, I'm flabberghasted. At least, I am if that's how it's spelt. I was absolutely imagining a load of comments saying 'eurgh', or words to that effect, about the noise - especially the blue field. Well, blue-ish. Instead, lots of kind people seem to like it. I shall never, ever, be able to predict an audience.
Note to self -> just keep shooting, keep shooting, shoot for yourself, don't try to second guess everyone.
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