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12/06/2004 12:18:37 AM · #1
My 5100 came with a RAW file converter to convert these RAW files over to TIF format automatically with the fujifilm software.

Isn't the whole reason of shooting in RAW to develop the photos yourself with the settings you choose instead of letting the built-in software develop the photos for you inside the camera? That really seems to defeat the purpose of shooting in RAW in the first place being that it's still fujifilm's software developing the photos with its default settings (as there is no way to change them, it is an automatic process).

SO -- two questions...

First, is there an advantage to shooting in RAW if it just automatically converts it to TIF using the default settings anyway?

Second, where can I get the photoshop plug-in for photoshop 7.0 that 'develops' the photo based on your settings? It seems like everything on their website is for Photoshop CS -- I tried downloading version 2.3, but when I copy it into the File Extensions folder, nothing really happens, and I still get errors when trying to open up a RAW file.

Thanks for the help -- I hope you can clear up my confusion.
12/06/2004 12:21:56 AM · #2
You are right about not wanting to use automatic conversion from RAW.

But there still would be two advantages: No JPEG artifacts will be introduced into your original. Plus you presumably would have a 48 bit color model instead of 24 for JPEG.
12/06/2004 12:36:26 AM · #3
hrmm...I can definately say I'm still confused. What would be the point in having 48-bit over 24 if I'm just going to save it to JPG for web and printing anyway? I don't really notice any artifacts in my originals as I am shooting in JPG.

While I'm at it -- are there any freeware or decent 30-day trial apps out there that are good to use (something that I'm not going to fall in love with in 30 days and then have to pony up $300 either lol)? thanks.
12/06/2004 12:48:08 AM · #4
There is some advantage to editing in 48 bit mode and then saving to 24 bit when you are done, less lost info this way. But the bigger advantage is to be able to control the conversion from raw to the image. I am using PhotoShop Elements for this and am pretty happy with it, much better then the software that came with the camera. You might check and see if PhotoShop handles your raw format.
12/06/2004 12:52:38 AM · #5
A Must-read book for any Digital Photographer who wants to improve their post-processing abilities.

Message edited by author 2004-12-06 00:52:55.
12/06/2004 12:56:58 AM · #6
Originally posted by scottwilson:

There is some advantage to editing in 48 bit mode and then saving to 24 bit when you are done, less lost info this way. But the bigger advantage is to be able to control the conversion from raw to the image. I am using PhotoShop Elements for this and am pretty happy with it, much better then the software that came with the camera. You might check and see if PhotoShop handles your raw format.


They currently list the finepix s5000 z -- so I don't know if the s5100 would work or not. Who knows and apparently, Infranview doesn't recognize my RAW files either. Oh well...I already bought photoshop 7.0 back in college, seems pointless to buy elements or whatever just for that. :-(
12/06/2004 01:23:28 AM · #7
Here I come to save the day. I had to do that but here is a free program the lets you do more with the raw file from your camera than the free raw converter that came with it. Hereis the software. Make sure you set the output tho the biggest file. if you have any questions PM me.

Message edited by author 2004-12-06 01:24:50.
12/06/2004 01:25:24 AM · #8
See if the PS RAW plug-in works with PS 7?

The advantage in editing in 48-bit is that as you make changes, e.g. Curves, you have more values to work with, and a smoother result. If you convert first, then your editing will be done on "coarser" data, and the results less precise.
12/06/2004 01:27:22 AM · #9
Originally posted by drz01:

Here I come to save the day. I had to do that ...

I didn't think you were quite old enough to remember Mighty Mouse : )
12/06/2004 07:48:46 PM · #10
Originally posted by drz01:

Here I come to save the day. I had to do that but here is a free program the lets you do more with the raw file from your camera than the free raw converter that came with it. Hereis the software. Make sure you set the output tho the biggest file. if you have any questions PM me.


Awesome -- seems to work great! Now I need a bigger memory card lol (Is it normal on a 256 MB card to only hold 30 RAW photos?). Well, I have a 256, a 128 (which came free with the camera) and the 16 that came with the camera.

Lots of fun little buttons to play with now.

How often do you shoot in RAW? Just curious -- I can't see doing it all the time.

I did a test tonight, and took two exact same photos. The RAW one processed into a TIF with the finepix software was 11 MB and the JPG one was just over 1.5 MB at fullsize (4.0mp).

Well, off to learn what these fancy new buttons do...thanks!
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