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12/02/2004 11:39:04 AM · #1 |
The challenge details for yellow state, "Photograph your interpretation of the color yellow. The color yellow must lead to the impact of the photo." If your subject is clearly yellow but not really leading to some great epiphany, will voters necessarily score these images low? Or will a well composed, technically correct image of a remotely interesting yellow subject fare reasonably well?
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12/02/2004 11:47:29 AM · #2 |
Frankly, it is only for the gods to know what will move voters to be more generous with their votes. If I were to prioritize the so called favourable "elements" of an image needed to get a strong vote, it would be as follows: Layout, image clarity and finally creativity.
The "Yellow" challenge should be alot of fun! Goon luck. |
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12/02/2004 12:05:45 PM · #3 |
A good photographer is someone who can make the ordinary extraordinary.
A great picture is a great picture. But the reverse also is true. If you take a crappy picture of a banana, chances are it'll score low because it's crappy picture; not because of the banana.
(Just a segue into the inevitable "why didn't this shot do better?" threads after the challenge).
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12/02/2004 12:17:56 PM · #4 |
I have a problem with the definition. "the color yellow must lead to the impact." This appears incorrect because it means yellow can lead to blue or purple. I think what they meant is that yellow should be the impact. Otherwise wise you can show a banana pointing to an apple. I don't think so.
Can anyone elucidate? |
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12/02/2004 12:19:48 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by graphicfunk:
I have a problem with the definition. "the color yellow must lead to the impact." This appears incorrect because it means yellow can lead to blue or purple. I think what they meant is that yellow should be the impact. Otherwise wise you can show a banana pointing to an apple. I don't think so.
Can anyone elucidate? |
My interpretation was that yellow should be the impact of the photo. |
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12/02/2004 12:29:58 PM · #6 |
I have a great idea, hope no one else has it.
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12/02/2004 12:40:47 PM · #7 |
Oh not always, you can take a great photo of a banana, and there is a good chance voter's interpretation of the challenge will have a lot of sway in the voting.
How voters and photo submitters interpret the challenges can be confusing and frustrating.As a writer I tend to read literal and figurative meanings into challenges. It's tough to take time out of a busy life to take photos and have them marked down, because voters are more concerned with their own interpretation of a challenge than the photo itself.
I have a problem with the definition too. It almost sounds like they want a photo that involves the photographer's vision of what yellow means without using yellow or photograph something that makes you think of the colour yellow - I know that is not what it means - but I have visions of submitting something yellow and being told just that.
At the same time if they just want photos that have yellow in them and being the main impact, then why not just say so? Why the obscure wording. Even something like "Dazzle us with yellow" is less confusing or " "What does yellow mean to you?" is more helpful.
I also get the impression they are searching for some great epiphany regarding yellow or at least I'll bet the voters will see it that. |
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12/02/2004 12:51:53 PM · #8 |
C'mon guys...if it's yellow it meets the challenge. If there is yellow in it it meets the challenge. Now if the photo is crappy it will score low period. Enough hair-splitting...
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12/02/2004 12:57:13 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by doctornick:
C'mon guys...if it's yellow it meets the challenge. If there is yellow in it it meets the challenge. Now if the photo is crappy it will score low period. Enough hair-splitting... |
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ROFL: very well said....but doctor, with your concise words you are removing that favorite past times of showing fear for the voters and how they will interpret. Of course, you are right. At the end we all go for yellow and let the chips fall. lol |
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12/02/2004 01:02:07 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by doctornick:
C'mon guys...if it's yellow it meets the challenge. If there is yellow in it it meets the challenge. Now if the photo is crappy it will score low period. Enough hair-splitting... |
But wouldn't it have been interesting if the challenge description was clarified and changed to:
"Take a photo which exemplifies the essence of 'yellow'"
Explore the mood of yellow, the implications of yellow...
I wonder why the description was so complicated if they could have simply said "Take a photo with something yellow in it"...
...whatever, same old confusion... |
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12/02/2004 01:19:07 PM · #11 |
Of course: a challenge description should be thoroughly thought out because it is the beacon of the challenge. We have all seen descriptions that fall short because concrete words are used to describe abstract ideas. "That leads to...," is too concrete.
Thatclouds, "Explore the yellow mood" hits the point and end of story.
Language is not so easy to use when addressing instructions which branch out to many. The choice of words is often not taken that seriously. |
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12/02/2004 01:24:22 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by graphicfunk:
Language is not so easy to use when addressing instructions which branch out to many. The choice of words is often not taken that seriously. |
I'm fairly new to the site (about 4 months), but I remember I've brought this up several times and the one time I did so an SC member politely told me if I wasn't happy with them, I should peruse all the challenge details and e-mail them the amended descriptions to make sure they were 'perfect'...so I stopped trying.
The challenges in the last weeks seemed to have great descriptions, but this one's nutty! |
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12/02/2004 01:57:33 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by doctornick:
C'mon guys...if it's yellow it meets the challenge. If there is yellow in it it meets the challenge. Now if the photo is crappy it will score low period. Enough hair-splitting... |
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
The over analysis is paralyzing my computer.
My sincerest sympathies go out to the site admins who have to field all these complaints.
Message edited by author 2004-12-02 13:59:33. |
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12/02/2004 02:16:04 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Travis99:
I have a great idea, hope no one else has it. |
I love your photos, I can only imagine what your idea will be this time!
I think I may enter some challenges soon, even though you are my fav photographer I can't help but wonder if I can do better. We'll have to see. Yellow, I have an idea too!! Must be working hard today!!!!
Your devoted fan!
"Behind every great man, is the wife who does the thinking for him" |
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12/02/2004 02:19:17 PM · #15 |
Thats too literal. What if the picture screams yellow- implies yellow- makes everyone think yellow- and there is no yellow in it? Isn't that better than a goofball photo of yellow pages or the like with the comment- "your picture sucks but at least you meet the challenge" That does not lead to better photography. In the reverse a giant red poster of spelling the words "the color yellow" might be a decent shot.
If photography is really art we need to think outside the box.
*edit for glaring typos*
Message edited by author 2004-12-02 14:21:58. |
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12/02/2004 02:24:00 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by blindjustice:
What if teh picture screams yellow- implies yellow- makes everyone think yellow- and there is no yellow in it? |
If it's that mind-numbingly obvious than it'd be..well..obvious.
That's a fairly obvious statement. I realize this is an obvious attempt to blur the challenge rules, but obviously this happens in EVERY challenge and obviously some people will get it and some people, obviously, won't.
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12/02/2004 02:28:19 PM · #17 |
ok i here's how i see it - the photog. in this challenge needs to use his/her shot to show their idea or ultimate image of the colour yellow and ALSO the colour yellow has to tie into/in with the subject.(ie.-ablack backround with a yellow "live strong" bracelet on it(for lack of a better refrance).
_brando_
Also there is another thread out that has some great examples in it mine is about the worst out there since i don't want to give out any potentional submittions.
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12/02/2004 02:38:18 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
Originally posted by blindjustice:
What if teh picture screams yellow- implies yellow- makes everyone think yellow- and there is no yellow in it? |
If it's that mind-numbingly obvious than it'd be..well..obvious.
That's a fairly obvious statement. I realize this is an obvious attempt to blur the challenge rules, but obviously this happens in EVERY challenge and obviously some people will get it and some people, obviously, won't. |
His point is that the "challenge rules" dictate the attitude towards such photos and this is often not taken into consideration when the challenge is posted. |
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12/02/2004 02:46:34 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
Originally posted by blindjustice:
What if teh picture screams yellow- implies yellow- makes everyone think yellow- and there is no yellow in it? |
If it's that mind-numbingly obvious than it'd be..well..obvious.
That's a fairly obvious statement. I realize this is an obvious attempt to blur the challenge rules, but obviously this happens in EVERY challenge and obviously some people will get it and some people, obviously, won't. |
I apologize if anyone else thinks, as you obviously do, that this thread was an attempt on my part to blur(?) the rules. I was actually hoping for some clarification. Hope this is obvious enough.
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12/02/2004 02:53:16 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by orussell:
I apologize if anyone else thinks, as you obviously do, that this thread was an attempt on my part to blur(?) the rules. I was actually hoping for some clarification. Hope this is obvious enough. |
so you found my obscure and, for the most part, unnecessary post aggitating? ..Phew! I thought people might not get my point |
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12/02/2004 02:56:49 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
Originally posted by orussell:
I apologize if anyone else thinks, as you obviously do, that this thread was an attempt on my part to blur(?) the rules. I was actually hoping for some clarification. Hope this is obvious enough. |
so you found my obscure and, for the most part, unnecessary post aggitating? ..Phew! I thought people might not get my point |
Touché. Slow day at the office or something? ;)
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12/02/2004 05:41:40 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by Travis99:
I have a great idea, hope no one else has it. |
no, I have the same idea as well :)
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12/02/2004 05:47:56 PM · #23 |
| From my experience in DPC, if the photo has no yellow in it, even if it screams yellow, it won't score well. |
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12/02/2004 06:09:17 PM · #24 |
The title is yellow revisited so it's probably something to do with yellow. It seems like it has to have yellow on it. I already submitted mine and i'm very proud of it now lets see how it comes. I'm in for a risky picture! lets see wha happens. :)
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12/02/2004 06:09:26 PM · #25 |
| I predict ericlimon (spl?) the winner. |
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