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11/22/2004 09:57:48 AM · #51 |
Upon further review...
In trying the >> feature, I am indeed able to skip the current photo, but it doesn't stay skipped! Keeps popping back up in the sequence due, I'm sure, to the randomize function. Since I'm skipping better than 80% of photos on initial run-through to identify and group together the real ribbon contenders, that soon becomes unworkable. I'm hoping for either a change to the >> or the addtion of SKIP that allows the voter to set a photo or block of photos aside for review later.
Originally posted by SDW65:
I wanted to start this thread since we only have 41 days till 2005. I have seen numerous threads offering site suggestions and most of them were good and would help. Here is the unofficial thread to post your proposed changes. |
Just my little wish.
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11/22/2004 09:58:44 AM · #52 |
For DPC Prints I would love to see a page with "pending" prints. Sometimes I might upload a bunch but won't really remember which ones!!Then I have to go thought them on by one.. argh...
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11/22/2004 11:48:31 AM · #53 |
Originally posted by suemack:
Latest images uploaded
I'd like to see a section in the photo area where you could see the latest images uploaded without having to go through individual galleries or ports. I'm sure there are 1000's of spectacular images in there that are never viewed.
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I think this is a great idea! It could be implemented by adding a "Latest Uploaded" link in the upper left box on the page that opens when you click on Browse in th drop down menu under Photos. This should be only for uploads to portfolio, not challenge entries or DPCPrints submissions. It would be a great way to get some views, and hopefully some comments, on portfolio shots without having to start a forum thread to showcase them. People might start to check out the Latest Uploads the same way they now check out the latest forum threads when they first log in.
Message edited by author 2004-11-22 11:51:05.
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11/22/2004 12:18:03 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by nova:
Upon further review...
In trying the >> feature, I am indeed able to skip the current photo, but it doesn't stay skipped! Keeps popping back up in the sequence due, I'm sure, to the randomize function. Since I'm skipping better than 80% of photos on initial run-through to identify and group together the real ribbon contenders, that soon becomes unworkable. |
Note that the purpose of the randomized presentation of photos is to try and ensure that all the photos get reasonable attention from all the voters, and to prevent the voters from "cherry-picking" the "best" photos to vote and comment on, skipping the rest.
Rather than skipping it five times, why not just give it a vote and be done with it? Surely by that point you have some idea of what score it deserves ... you've already seen it more than any of the others! |
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11/22/2004 12:23:04 PM · #55 |
I would like to see replies to my forum posts emailed to me so that I can follow them even when I am not hanging out in DPC's site.
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11/22/2004 02:21:55 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
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Note that the purpose of the randomized presentation of photos is to try and ensure that all the photos get reasonable attention from all the voters, and to prevent the voters from "cherry-picking" the "best" photos to vote and comment on, skipping the rest.
Rather than skipping it five times, why not just give it a vote and be done with it? Surely by that point you have some idea of what score it deserves ... you've already seen it more than any of the others!
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GeneralE,
I do see your point. My intention is to break the large - sometimes very large- number of photos into more manageable groups. I can compare 20 or 30 shots that I think should score similarly much easier if the thumbnails are together on a page, instead of having to recall which shot I called an 8 (and why) an hour ago while in the meantime having viewed or maybe even voted on dozens of other 4, 5, and 6's. Personally, I make it a point to vote on virtually all the photos in each challenge with rare exception. (We'll see how long that continues ). For me, at least, it isn't a matter of cherry picking vs. ignoring photos, but rather managing the large task of comparing 600+ images and doing justice to the job. |
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11/22/2004 02:42:12 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by EddyG:
[quote=nova] I believe that's what the >> is for. It takes you to the next picture without casting a vote... |
Is it expected behavior for the >> to vanish from time to time? It has done some on me before -- since it didn't have anything to do with the frequency of my using it (I used it a lot after first seeing it vanish to get it to repeat), so I figured it was preventing too many skips over a small period of time (from the server's perspective).
Which may not be too bad of an idea; but then again, I am all for hiding thumbs once one begins voting (as discussed fully in a previous thread).
David
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11/22/2004 02:53:12 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by nova:
GeneralE,
I do see your point. My intention is to break the large - sometimes very large- number of photos into more manageable groups. I can compare 20 or 30 shots that I think should score similarly much easier if the thumbnails are together on a page, instead of having to recall which shot I called an 8 (and why) an hour ago while in the meantime having viewed or maybe even voted on dozens of other 4, 5, and 6's. Personally, I make it a point to vote on virtually all the photos in each challenge with rare exception. (We'll see how long that continues ). For me, at least, it isn't a matter of cherry picking vs. ignoring photos, but rather managing the large task of comparing 600+ images and doing justice to the job. |
In theory, we are supposed to be evaluating each photo on its own merits, and not in comparison to the other entries in the challenge. I realize this is usually (and quite naturally) followed somewhat less-than ideally in actual practice.
Note though, if you go through and "quickly" assign a tentative vote to pictures you're not sure of, they will be grouped by score given on the initial challenge thumbs page, below any photos on which you've yet to vote.
Many people go back through the thumbs and move some pictures up or down in score and/or add a comment at this point, when they can see the photos grouped by score given, but also after they've seen the full-sized image at least once, briefly. The way you describe your procedure, you are making an initial evaluation from the thumbs only.
However, there are as many voting styles as members ... if you are consistent in your procedure and apply your criteria fairly to all pictures it fits within our guidelines : ) |
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11/22/2004 03:25:51 PM · #59 |
Here's my list for Santa Clause.
1. A checkbox while voting stating whether the entry meets the challenge (like we stated before the more people thought it didn't meet the more the score dropped) That way we can vote on the aesthetics of the photo at the time and not worry too much about it meeting the challenge.
2. Definitely have the ability to who has chosen what pics as favorites, only challenge entries right now gets this treatment.
3. Like to see more info under the names, besides camera, in forums. The photo idea would look cool too, but may not work with bandwidth.
4. Search photos by score, by what place they got, by how many people have the selected as favs, and so one.
5. After a year of having a camera to be able to trade it in for an upgrade, I’ll take the 20Dâ€Â¦not the MarkII, don’t want to get greedy. .
Well these are a few I and I know many others have thought and said already. I think they all can workâ€Â¦well 5 is a bit of a stretch, but hey we can all wish for Christmas miracles!!
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11/22/2004 10:14:36 PM · #60 |
A couple more feature requests:
1. Ignore user: just like with favorite photographer, i'd like to be able to add a few folks to an ignore list, to never receive their comments, pm's, and forum posts. They would still be allowed to vote, of course...
2. PMs on the web site. It makes little sense to me to see PMs in the email box, i use email for different things. And surely makes replying hard. A much more logical solution would be to have a message exchange page on the website itself.
3. And for completeness, i mentioned it in another thread, just to add it here: make a list of challenge entries sortable by the score each user had given.
ty. |
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11/23/2004 12:53:39 AM · #61 |
And one more feature request: a crop tool. A javascript based thingie that lets you crop a picture you are commenting on and insert the suggested crop into the comments. Later when anyone sees that page, they can click on the crop button inside the comment and the image is cropped as the commenter suggested.
To illustrate, this works on this site, click on the second button from the left right under the image. You won't be able to write a comment because you are not registered, but to see how it works inside the comments, reload the page and click on the crop button in comment 20.
That particular script is broken, so it only works in Internet Exploiter, but something like that is extremely helpful in comments.
Message edited by author 2004-11-23 00:54:32. |
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11/23/2004 12:56:42 AM · #62 |
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
1. Ignore user: just like with favorite photographer, i'd like to be able to add a few folks to an ignore list, to never receive their comments, pm's, and forum posts. They would still be allowed to vote, of course...
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Do other sites have this? I'm curious if it works well in a forum situation. Doesn't blocking one person make the threads they post in make less sense? I've sometimes wished for this feature but then wondered if it would work. |
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11/23/2004 12:58:58 AM · #63 |
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
1. Ignore user:
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Do other sites have this? I'm curious if it works well in a forum situation. Doesn't blocking one person make the threads they post in make less sense? I've sometimes wished for this feature but then wondered if it would work. |
Don't know about forums, this is the only one i really ever write in, i guess i would agree with you. But that definitely works on other sites for comments, private messages and scores. Obviously we cannot ignore the scores, but they are anonymous anyway, so that's irrelevant. |
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11/23/2004 07:36:30 AM · #64 |
DPC is pretty decent as is, otherwise we wouldn't be here. A few small suggestions: (most of which have been mentioned in various threads before, but, since we are making a list and checking it twice):
1) A focus on relative finish place (percentile) rather than actual score or position. As we continue breaking new records in terms of participation, we need a better way of comparing previous entries to today's work.
2) Hot Index added to your bio page below average score. This would be something like a rolling average over the last 5 or 10 competitions. Personally, this is the best tool I have found to drive improvement.
3) The ability to review a completed challenge and sort by my vote on images. I think this would be an easier way to really understand how our own tastes differ from those of the masses.
4) The Mulligan: Every quarter (or half) we would be allowed to remove one entry from our bio page and stats calculation (though it could stay in the challenge results for anyone reviewing the competition.) For most of us, this is a friendly game, and the spirit of the Mulligan fits. Of course you could disconnect this option for all Masters and Ribbon Hogs. ;)
5) A spell checker for my posts.
Best, |
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11/24/2004 01:06:52 AM · #65 |
| I agree with many of the suggestions in this thread, but we need the option, during voting, to have a vote of "no vote." Some images I cannot judge fairly, and would rather hit one "no vote" button than see it every 4 or 6 entries. |
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11/24/2004 01:18:25 AM · #66 |
Originally posted by vontom:
I agree with many of the suggestions in this thread, but we need the option, during voting, to have a vote of "no vote." Some images I cannot judge fairly, and would rather hit one "no vote" button than see it every 4 or 6 entries. |
Just hit the '>>' icon. |
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11/24/2004 01:18:44 AM · #67 |
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
1. Ignore user: just like with favorite photographer, i'd like to be able to add a few folks to an ignore list, to never receive their comments, pm's, and forum posts. They would still be allowed to vote, of course...
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Do other sites have this? I'm curious if it works well in a forum situation. Doesn't blocking one person make the threads they post in make less sense? I've sometimes wished for this feature but then wondered if it would work. |
yes, other sites have this -- and it works rather well. On the sites I've seen it in action when a user is ignored, the ignoring user has the option of how long to ignore them and if to notify them they are being ignored (not sure I like that part, seems like a way to make a bad situation worse) -- after the time period (may be forever if so desired) the person becomes unignored again. In the forum when any posts from that individual are present, but the text is replaced with a notice reminding me I have ignored them. This notice also provides a link that will open that particular post from the user without having to unignore them. The only problem I have seen is when the ignored person is quoted -- the quoting is still visible.
David
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11/24/2004 01:22:51 AM · #68 |
| Since all posts are parsed by the server before being output to you anyway (to process quotes, links, images, etc properly), it should be trivial to also add the functionality to collapse the quotes from ignored users. Speaking from a purely technical viewpoint. |
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11/24/2004 01:31:15 AM · #69 |
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Originally posted by vontom:
I agree with many of the suggestions in this thread, but we need the option, during voting, to have a vote of "no vote." Some images I cannot judge fairly, and would rather hit one "no vote" button than see it every 4 or 6 entries. |
Just hit the '>>' icon. |
Yes, but i'd like to not have to hit the ">>" button every 3 or 4 (sometimes) entries. I do not want to vote on the image at all, not just put it off. There's one entry in Authority I have no desire to vote on (for personal bias) and have seen it nearly a dozen times. I'll end up voting unfairly on it, just so I don't have to see it any more. |
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11/24/2004 02:18:49 AM · #70 |
Here's one I don't think I have seen yet, and I think most people who have prints in DPCPrints would agree with this addition, maybe. In your profile you have a thumbnail of your 4 highest scoring photos. Many of those photos have prints available, but there is no indication of that on the front page of your profile (the most viewed page). Perhaps one of those little printer icons that are on the thumbnails of the photos in your portfolio, could also be on any prints you may have on your front profile page (not only the 4 highest scoring photos, but also any of the 4 most recent additions that may be available as a print). Some people's profiles are viewed over 1000 times, and that's good publicity for those photos which are available for prints.
If this was already mentioned I apologize.
Mark
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11/24/2004 10:16:30 AM · #71 |
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
And one more feature request: a crop tool. A javascript based thingie that lets you crop a picture you are commenting on and insert the suggested crop into the comments. Later when anyone sees that page, they can click on the crop button inside the comment and the image is cropped as the commenter suggested.
To illustrate, this works on this site, click on the second button from the left right under the image. You won't be able to write a comment because you are not registered, but to see how it works inside the comments, reload the page and click on the crop button in comment 20.
That particular script is broken, so it only works in Internet Exploiter, but something like that is extremely helpful in comments. |
This is similar to an idea I suggested a while ago, where users could draw on the photo which is then saved to their comment (a bit like the Powerpoint pen/highlighter feature), which could include crops, arrows to point out problem areas, etc. It would be really great I reckon.
//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=129627
Message edited by author 2004-11-24 10:42:48.
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11/24/2004 10:36:53 AM · #72 |
| I don't see the relevance of the voting statistic "average (no camera)". I would much rather see a stat in open challenges "average (members)" and perhaps one in member challenges "average (masters)". I think this would be a more meaningful use of the site resources. |
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11/24/2004 10:39:57 AM · #73 |
I would like to see a way that our shots CAN"T be pulled off the site, some kind of a way to add our names to shots after the challenges or a watermark, as I get better and want to sell images, I don't like the idea of people pulling them off without permission. I have no idea the best way to safeguard them on here, but would feel this is the most important things we could do. I know they are small in size, yet they are fine for web use. And even some small print stuff.
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11/25/2004 05:24:33 PM · #74 |
Originally posted by SDW65:
Here are a few things I would like to see DPC implement in 2005
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3. > 10mb of portfolio space. |
Oh, Please, Please, Please, more than 10mb...
Martin
(At 10 right now) |
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11/25/2004 06:35:46 PM · #75 |
| One thing I'd like, and forgive me if it has been brought up before, is the use of the print icon for my favorites page. It would be nice if I knew at a glance at my favorites page, which photos have prints available. Happy turkey day! |
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