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11/18/2004 07:48:41 PM · #1 |
I just downloaded firefox 1.0 last night and I sorta like it so far, but one thing I noticed is when I am on a web page like DPC and I click on a forum to read and when I hit the back button i go back to the top of the page.
In IE I would go back to the same area I was at when I clicked the link.
Does firefox do this or not?
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11/18/2004 07:50:36 PM · #2 |
It does it on some sites and not others. Unfortunately dpc is one of those others.
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11/18/2004 08:10:39 PM · #3 |
Yeah, it happens on DPC. Pisses me off constantly. Haven't had the pleasure (and by this I mean "pleasure like having you fingers inserted into a meat grinder") of using IE for several years now. So I didn't realize it was only a problem on Firefox.
I've never noticed this to be a problem on other websites, so I think it's a problem with DPC. I'll look into the technical details, but I think it must have to do with HTTP expiration date or allow-caching headers.
Also, DPC makes the W3C validator really upset. I don't suppose D&L care, but the pages don't specify or conform to any HTML standard. Just something to think about, since DPC is having some annoying quirks. |
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11/18/2004 08:13:28 PM · #4 |
| Also, and almost for sure this is the cause of the going-to-the-top-of-the-page problem, when using the back button to return to the previous page, the page is forced to re-load from the server. Yuck. It should be in my memory cache. |
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11/18/2004 08:59:04 PM · #5 |
ok thanks for the info, I thought it was some setting I would have to set
James |
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11/19/2004 02:08:32 AM · #6 |
In a nutshell, Firefox is "doing the right thing", and IE is not.
DPC is a dynamic site, and because of that, it sends "do not cache this content" headers (because the page is likely to be out of date very quickly -- new posts are added to the front page, the color of read vs. unread threads changes, etc.) Firefox handles this HTTP header properly, IE seems to ignore it. Because the page is refreshed, there is no way for Firefox to "remember" the previous anchor position, since the page could have changed substantially. So it defaults to showing the "top" of the page.
One way around this problem is to use tabbed browsing. Configure Firefox so that a middle-click on a link opens the link in a new tab. (You may need to install an extension to get the middle-click-opens-new-tab functionality, not sure. I use the highly-configurable Tabbrowser Extensions). Now, when you want to read a post on the front page, just middle-click on it instead of left-clicking. It will open in a new tab. Read the thread, and then close the tab (with a down-right mouse gesture. =]) You are then taken back to the previous tab you were viewing, which in this example, would be the "home page", right where you left it. (If you don't go back to your previously-viewed tab when you close a tab, you need to configure the appropriate option in Tabbrowser Extensions).
Hope that helps!
Message edited by author 2004-11-19 02:10:35. |
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11/19/2004 04:58:52 AM · #7 |
I know hardly nothing bout correctly installing things or conifigure (the basics is good for me) but I installed mozilla last night and its working fine even the back.
I only had trouble with updating my site on a template based site.
Its working great now.
I think cookies and java enabled has something to do with it?
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