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10/21/2004 03:26:09 PM · #26
It's not worth the time...the exact same scam with almost identical wording and referring to the same church is documented in some of the resources linked below...
10/21/2004 03:41:38 PM · #27
Do you know what the scam is? Usually they want your bank account number or something. Do you know what they stand to gain from this scam? People are tricky....no .. no: People are STRANGE...
10/21/2004 03:46:17 PM · #28
Originally posted by GoldBerry:

Do you know what the scam is? Usually they want your bank account number or something. Do you know what they stand to gain from this scam? People are tricky....no .. no: People are STRANGE...


It's all in the posts below...As St. Nick said:

eg - you charge $1000 they give you $3000 ask you to wire back $2000
In which case the bank finds out that the checks were fraud but wait shit: you already had wired $2000 out of your account into theres and worst you now owe the bank $2000 and now you can't buy that brand new camera you were after :(
10/21/2004 04:14:51 PM · #29
Originally posted by GoldBerry:

Listen, if the dude sends you a cheque and it doesn't bounce, than do it. There's nothing wrong with that. Just because his grammar isn't the best and he may not know anything about how the biz works.

The big BUT here is that he's assuming in your wedding price that he'll be legally entitled to give your photos to the publisher. The charge for that is up to you but definetly not included in your regular package price.

Edit: I'm not saying it's NOT a scam, I'm just saying don't write it off. He could be a big oil tycoon from Saudi Arabia.

Edit2: Just checked out your website and I didn't see any wedding photos on it, so yeah, that makes the whole thing suspicious.


Well, countless variations of this scam have been going on for years, some people are stupid enough to fall for it or else it wouldn't keep going.

The cashier's check will look very real, and if you deposit it, the amount will show up in your available balance immediately or within a few days. Then, you are supposed to wire transfer the balance of the money to them, above what you are owed, usually in the thousands or tens of thousands of dollars. Once you do this, the money is GONE from your account, this transaction is immediate, anonymous and they have cash as soon as they sign for it in Nigeria or wherever they are. After you transfer the money to them, the cashier's check will bounce and you are left holding the bag.

They are relying on peoples' wanting to help to get business or sell something and their mistaken belief that cashier's checks are as good as cash, when they can take 2 weeks or longer to clear.

They don't want your account number, then they'd have to do the work to get money out. Why go to all that trouble when they can just get you to GIVE it to them?

I'm sure you could find out the hard way if you get one of these offers, but when you get burned, don't say you weren't warned.

Message edited by author 2004-10-21 16:25:43.
10/21/2004 04:19:51 PM · #30
These have been going around for ages.

Anyone who believes them, or is seriously considering the offer needs a straight jacket!

IT'S A SCAM, CON, RIPOFF!

If you have money to throw away, PM me and I'll give my Paypal account details...all donations gratefully received. I sense a 20D getting closer.
10/21/2004 04:36:06 PM · #31
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:


(quote from the received mail)....At this moment,my fiancee and i are on our way to Holland for a 4 weeks prewedding honeymoon.......


A four week prewedding honeymoon in HOLLAND? Honeymoon in Holland OK, but FOUR WEEKS? What do they need four weeks in Holland for?

It's damn boring over here. You don't want to spent four weeks in our soaking wet, windy, etc tiny little country when you can do a whole tour through Europe in half the time!

This must be a scam! :)
10/21/2004 04:40:59 PM · #32
The question now is do you want to go after the scammers or just ignore them?

If you want to try and trap them, I suggest contacting your local District Attorney's Consumer Fraud division, and/or the FBI and/or the USPS Postal Inspectors office. In any case, these people are playing with violating Federal Law.

The authorities may want your assistance in trying to gather evidence against these parties; if so, I'm sure you'd be insured against any personal financial loss.
10/21/2004 04:52:18 PM · #33
If it sounds too good to be true than it is.
10/21/2004 05:01:20 PM · #34
Originally posted by GeneralE:

The question now is do you want to go after the scammers or just ignore them?

If you want to try and trap them, I suggest contacting your local District Attorney's Consumer Fraud division, and/or the FBI and/or the USPS Postal Inspectors office. In any case, these people are playing with violating Federal Law.

The authorities may want your assistance in trying to gather evidence against these parties; if so, I'm sure you'd be insured against any personal financial loss.


For the prosecutors/Feds, it's not about lack of opportunity, it's about priorities and logistics. How much of their resources (money and manpower) are they going to expend going after someone in a country where they likely can't be found, and even if, by some very remote chance the Feds could loacte the scammer, they likely can't touch them anyway. Do you think Bush is gonna call in Seal Team 6 to kidnap some small time crook in Nigeria? I think there are other priorities.

The government will tell you just not to be stupid with your money, though they might be a bit more tactful about it.
10/21/2004 05:05:15 PM · #35
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

... The government will tell you just not to be stupid with your money ...

True, there does seem to be a government near-monopoly on that activity ...
10/21/2004 05:46:03 PM · #36
I knew when I read it, it was not legit. Just wondered if anyone else had gotten it. Since, as mentioned, I am not, do not shoot weddings, and have no want to either. I recieved the email through my webpage email, so they must have googled and then sent it off.
Maybe I should have them send me the check and then I will deposit it and wait for it to clear. Crap I got a check from USAA, that I took to cash at MY bank and they were calling them, so...
I did have one of these things happen with a pool table I am trying to sell. Guy said he was from Nigeria and had a business there. Wanted the table. Said a guy that owed him$3000 would send me a cashiers check. I cash or deposit it and Western Union him the left over $1800. So proceeded to ask him, why the guy could not wire him the money and then he could wire me the money. He said it would be easier this way. Cont to argue, cuz I knew he ws FOS, about HIM send the money. Dumbass! How is it easier his way? Anyway....
10/21/2004 05:51:15 PM · #37
If you decide to take the check and deposit it, tell the bank ahead of time that you suspect it to be fraudulent and that you want their assistance in trying to trap the crook. Maybe they'll let you open a new account just for this, which they can freeze. I'd take fingerprints off the check too, before handling it.

Just be prepared to do some creative writing to string the scammer along.

I think there was a big write-up one someone who did this with a similar spammer/scammer, I just can't remember is I saw it through BBspot.com or Snopes.com.
10/21/2004 05:52:30 PM · #38
Originally posted by lnede:

If it sounds too good to be true than it is.

Amen.
10/21/2004 05:55:09 PM · #39
Originally posted by PaulMdx:

Originally posted by lnede:

If it sounds too good to be true ...

Amen.

Funny you should answer that way, since that description applies to virtually all religions ... (this is not a rant!) : )
10/21/2004 06:14:48 PM · #40
Originally posted by smokeditor:

THIS IS A SCAM!!!

This same email has been recieved many times by many photographers.
It has been well documented at sportsshooter.com
Sportsshooter Thread Here


Read that it is obvious a scam - the cheque won't bounce then you think its alright until it is found out the cheque is a fraud cause when the banks clear it doesn't mean its alright
10/21/2004 06:54:31 PM · #41
Originally posted by GeneralE:



Just be prepared to do some creative writing to string the scammer along.

I think there was a big write-up one someone who did this with a similar spammer/scammer, I just can't remember is I saw it through BBspot.com or Snopes.com.


Check the Harry Blumpkin and Holy Church of the Bread, Fish and Wine links above

Message edited by author 2004-10-21 19:19:01.
10/28/2004 02:14:27 PM · #42
I got the same exact email (different name)! It's a Scam!!! Do Not Respond!!

Here's his reponse after my initial reply to him:
Hello Again,
Thanks so much for the email.I am glad things are working out smoothly.At this moment,we just arrived in holland for our Prewedding honeymoon which will last for four weeks and we will try and get in touch with you upon our return prior to the wedding date.I will send you a plane ticket few days to the event to cover the transportation costs and i will also make adequate preparations for you as regards hotel accomodation.Let me know as soon as you have received the payment.Here is my mailing address where a Contract if available can be mailed to and i can have it filled and signed upon my return and then returned to you.I would want us to make all arrangements concluded before you eventually travel down to the wedding venue.

263 HAYWOOD ST
EAST LIVERPOOL
OHIO,43920.
U.S.A.

Thank you very much for everything.
Edward.


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