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10/14/2004 01:48:07 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by mariomel:
EDIT: I just noticed that in DPP or probably any other RAW processor that doesn't have the BW settings, the CR2 file shows up in colour.
So we do have the best of both worlds. Yet another reason to shoot in the RAW. Damn this camera rocks! |
Yup, I am using DPP which so far I have been very impressed with.
Not sure yet if I'll stick with this or update my Capture One.
Nice examples of the tones there by the way, good stuff :)
The filters looked pretty realistic to me (compared to the real glass), one was particularly effective for deepening the sky but without the camera to hand I can't recall which.
Message edited by author 2004-10-14 01:50:06.
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10/14/2004 06:39:30 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by VisiBlanco:
Nice photo Tech-D, did you go inside by chance? Yea powerlines suck, sometimes I don't even notice they are in a shot until I get it on the computer. |
Thanks for the kind words everyone, no I wasn't able to go into the Church but I will be heading back over the winter and I plan on getting some more shots inside and out.
The original poster had asked for an un-edited B&W photo so that is why I posted this one. I have been playing in PS to make the shot more appealing, though it still needs some major work as I'm new to this.
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10/14/2004 07:14:19 AM · #28 |
One tip is to try and not have any repetition in the textures, like the ones present in the grass to the left of your shot, because that is obvious to a lot of people (I was anal enough to notice this at one point during Lord of the Rings!). Also, don't assume that off the frame the horizon becomes dead straight. Adding randomness to the level of the horizon will make it look more realistic.
edit: Sorry, not meaning to hijack the thread, just posting a few words of editing advice.
Message edited by author 2004-10-14 07:14:52.
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10/14/2004 08:10:11 AM · #29 |
in camera b/w you shoot with 256 grayscale colors, in color you shoot around 2 million. It's beneficial to shoot in color then switch over, because you pick up WAY more info, plus your photos wont all be gray ;)
20D and the 10D both have b/w mode
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10/14/2004 11:18:40 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by jmlelii:
in camera b/w you shoot with 256 grayscale colors, in color you shoot around 2 million. It's beneficial to shoot in color then switch over, because you pick up WAY more info, plus your photos wont all be gray ;)
20D and the 10D both have b/w mode |
If shooting Black and White in RAW plus JPEG on the 20D results in full color and B&W output then there is no longer any advantage to shooting in color and relying on your editing skills to convert. As in so many aspects of digital photography, the advances of technology have upset the conventional wisdom. I think that there is no longer a clear answer to which will produce the best results. And there soon will be only a fuzzy distinction between what is a B&W and color shot. I can hear the old film purists now saying that the only true B&W is that which was shot on B&W film and has never been seen in color. |
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10/14/2004 11:23:57 AM · #31 |
I am pretty sure that the 10D does not have B&W mode.
Originally posted by jmlelii:
in camera b/w you shoot with 256 grayscale colors, in color you shoot around 2 million. It's beneficial to shoot in color then switch over, because you pick up WAY more info, plus your photos wont all be gray ;)
20D and the 10D both have b/w mode |
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10/14/2004 11:25:30 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
I can hear the old film purists now saying that the only true B&W is that which was shot on B&W film and has never been seen in color. |
You don't have to look at the colour RAW image, but at least you know it's there if somebody offers you big $$$ for a colour version. LOL!
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10/14/2004 11:26:48 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by Natator:
The filters looked pretty realistic to me (compared to the real glass), one was particularly effective for deepening the sky but without the camera to hand I can't recall which. |
I'm pretty sure that the red filter is the one that deepens the skies.
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10/14/2004 11:54:58 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by jmlelii:
in camera b/w you shoot with 256 grayscale colors, in color you shoot around 2 million. It's beneficial to shoot in color then switch over, because you pick up WAY more info, plus your photos wont all be gray ;)
20D and the 10D both have b/w mode |
Good info on the 256 vs 2 million there :)
However, the 10D definitiely does NOT have a b&w mode, unless it was in a very recent firmware fix that never made it as far as mine.
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10/14/2004 05:08:24 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by Konador:
One tip is to try and not have any repetition in the textures, like the ones present in the grass to the left of your shot, because that is obvious to a lot of people (I was anal enough to notice this at one point during Lord of the Rings!). Also, don't assume that off the frame the horizon becomes dead straight. Adding randomness to the level of the horizon will make it look more realistic.
edit: Sorry, not meaning to hijack the thread, just posting a few words of editing advice. |
Thanks for the info, the only way to learn is from the kind words of others.
Thanks again,
Darren |
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