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10/27/2015 09:01:05 PM · #1 |
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10/27/2015 09:10:43 PM · #2 |
It's not the first time something like that has happened, and I doubt it will be the last either.
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10/27/2015 11:57:58 PM · #3 |
| If I was one of the cleaners, I possibly would have done the same |
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10/28/2015 09:10:12 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by westford:
If I was one of the cleaners, I possibly would have done the same |
I've been spending too much time on other sites. I wanted to hit the like button but there isn't one.
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10/28/2015 01:18:18 PM · #5 |
| this would be so interesting if it weren't a hundred year old argument. Google "R. Mutt" some time. |
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10/28/2015 01:51:33 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
... Google "R. Mutt" some time. |
Well ain't that a pisser...
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10/28/2015 02:15:09 PM · #7 |
Duchamp was one of the inspirations for my Senior art project (in 1995). Robert Rauschenberg was another one.
I designed and printed the packaging and prototype for a "Fake ID kit", and had an area of the gallery taped off with security tape and a video camera where you could see yourself. I also had painted a brick wall with a shelf on it and presented it as am artwork with title LOL ...
Found objects and installations just might have gone from questioning what art is to being something worth sweeping into the trash ;)
So that gets me thinking, perhaps this could inspire a Challenge here: "Create your own art installation and photograph it".
With a special flag requiring it not be an existing installation (yes I realize that is impossible to prove ...) |
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10/28/2015 02:31:07 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
... Google "R. Mutt" some time. |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Well ain't that a pisser... |
Yes......yes it is.
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10/28/2015 02:35:31 PM · #9 |
At mt daughter's art school, someone dragged in a treadmill, stuck it in a corner, and called it their art project. Senior freakin' thesis. I kid you not.
Another one, someone cut out a tiny picture of a teddy bear from a magazine and decoupaged in center of a piece of plywood.
Message edited by author 2015-10-28 14:36:55. |
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10/28/2015 03:10:17 PM · #10 |
| Sometimes that's happened with my photographs... |
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10/29/2015 08:43:29 AM · #11 |
I'm inclined to go with the cleaners on this one.
If the bottles were remade into something and not just a "heap"/"pile"/"stack", then you could argue the art bit. Seems to me like "a couple of drunk artists decided that their empties should be considered art, because they're artists and stacked them".
While I'm open to artistic concepts, it's like me folding my laundry and saying museums should pay me lots of money to showcase it. "feck off" |
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10/29/2015 10:26:07 AM · #12 |
Perhaps it was the only way the trite exhibit could make any headlines was to have someone sweep it up - perhaps it was a conspiracy- as the OP hinted at ... ;)
There are so many great artists doing interesting things. And so many artists dedicating huge amounts of time and talent to their passions. Artists who are recycling ideas with found objects should indeed not be rewarded with a gallery or museum space unless their vision and idea is captivating and at least an effort to have some unique thought or vision. IMHO of course.
Originally posted by RyanW:
I'm inclined to go with the cleaners on this one. |
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10/29/2015 10:36:00 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by posthumous:
... Google "R. Mutt" some time. |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Well ain't that a pisser... |
Yes......yes it is. |
Ah, yes. This installation had pride of place in the 2nd floor permanent collection of the San Francisco Modern Art Museum for years.
The museum has been closed for some time now for renovation and is due to open again in May.
I wonder where this installation will be in the new facility. |
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10/29/2015 12:03:35 PM · #14 |
I live not so distant from Bozen and I've read this on the local newspaper and on the web.
If I was there I'd have done the same cause this kind of art is create by the art dealers to sell their products.
Perhaps this form of art is a provocation but has encountered some severe critics (the cleaning staff) who have seen in it the garbage that really is..... |
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10/29/2015 12:23:29 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by posthumous:
... Google "R. Mutt" some time. |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Well ain't that a pisser... |
Yes......yes it is. |
Ah, yes. This installation had pride of place in the 2nd floor permanent collection of the San Francisco Modern Art Museum for years.
The museum has been closed for some time now for renovation and is due to open again in May.
I wonder where this installation will be in the new facility. |
The original is lost. Museums only display replicas. |
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10/29/2015 01:23:02 PM · #16 |
This is a document that was in the public since early 80's. The document is a letter Duchamp wrote to his sister about the urinal.
"On April 11, 1917, just two days after the directors of the Society of Independent Artists had rejected a urinal as a submission for their exhibition, Duchamp wrote to his sister telling her that ‘One of my female friends under a masculine pseudonym, Richard Mutt, sent in a porcelain urinal as a sculpture’. This letter did not enter the public domain until 1983. It contradicts Duchamp’s own later account of this seminal incident."
see also Origin of Duchamps's urinal |
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