Another disgusting misuse of photoshop

09/01/2014 09:30:12 AM · #51

here I fixed it for you:

Originally posted by pamb:

Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by pamb:
Mike, I can't quite recall if I've seen this somewhere before, but you and I don't think the same, correct?

yes.

aah, ok. This explains so very much. Carry on.

Message edited by author 2014-09-01 09:30:20.

pamb

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09/01/2014 09:35:49 AM · #52

Originally posted by Mike:

here I fixed it for you:

Originally posted by pamb:

Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by pamb:
Mike, I can't quite recall if I've seen this somewhere before, but you and I don't think the same, correct?

yes.

aah, ok. This explains so very much. Carry on.

Oh don't you worry about that my sarcastic friend, couldn't be *more* aware of that.

Message edited by Bear_Music - Getting a little personal, Pam... I edited out that bit, OK?.

pamb

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09/01/2014 09:36:05 AM · #53

Gnite!

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09/01/2014 09:37:43 AM · #54

Originally posted by pamb:

Gnite!

sweet dreams

BrennanOB

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09/01/2014 03:07:31 PM · #55

Originally posted by Mike:

you found an article on the internet where a model is shocked, shocked! that someone would photoshop away her flaws, the horror! last time i checked, models are selected based on their appearance.

What you seemed to have missed is that they did not eliminate a flaw, the model is in great shape. What they did was to make her body look like something that does not, can not exist in this world because even females have intestines and various essential organs in their midsection that they need to have there to continue living. The fact that you see a woman in great shape as needing to be "fixed" means you share an unnatural opinion of what a female ought to look like, which is unhealthy, but not as dangerous as when a 12 year old girl buys into the same lie. Then it gets very dangerous indeed.

It is not a question of "being in shape."

Here is a link to Howard Schatzâ��s Athlete series. Here we see the various bodies of the worlds most elite athletes yet none of them even come close to looking like they could skip the photoshop phase of a modeling job, because the body being sold to us as ideal, does not exist.

ArnaMarie

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09/01/2014 03:20:29 PM · #56

Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Originally posted by Mike:
you found an article on the internet where a model is shocked, shocked! that someone would photoshop away her flaws, the horror! last time i checked, models are selected based on their appearance.

What you seemed to have missed is that they did not eliminate a flaw, the model is in great shape. What they did was to make her body look like something that does not, can not exist in this world because even females have intestines and various essential organs in their midsection that they need to have there to continue living. The fact that you see a woman in great shape as needing to be "fixed" means you share an unnatural opinion of what a female ought to look like, which is unhealthy, but not as dangerous as when a 12 year old girl buys into the same lie. Then it gets very dangerous indeed.

It is not a question of "being in shape."

Here is a link to Howard Schatzâ��s Athlete series. Here we see the various bodies of the worlds most elite athletes yet none of them even come close to looking like they could skip the photoshop phase of a modeling job, because the body being sold to us as ideal, does not exist.

+1
This is pretty much just what I was going to write in my next response. Well said!

Message edited by author 2014-09-01 15:24:02.

09/01/2014 03:38:21 PM · #57

focusing on this image in particular, i still don't see the problem, the finished image looks natural to me, they didn't make her that much thinner, in fact the pose actually looks better. so what if she isn't that thin, who cares, the finished product looks good and that's the point. if you have ever photographed models the poses are very unnatural and sometimes uncomfortable for them so they Photoshopped her into a better pose. when they Photoshopped this underwater image they moved some of the belly but getting the model to suck in her stomach and bend that way would be extremely difficult especially floating in water and holding her breath.

the original image looks unnatural to me and the finished one just has a better overall feel. The retoucher hasn't done anything that i wouldn't not have done to this image.

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09/01/2014 03:45:04 PM · #58

here problem solved, just a put a disclaimer on every image that it as been retouched.

"professionally retouched image, don't try to look like this at home."

Message edited by author 2014-09-01 15:47:43.

BrennanOB

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

09/01/2014 04:26:17 PM · #59

Originally posted by Mike:

here problem solved, just a put a disclaimer on every image that it as been retouched.

"professionally retouched image, don't try to look like this at home."

That is actually a pretty clever idea; we have those disclaimers on every car ad (professional driver on a closed course, do not attempt to do this at home) or the even longer disclaimers on medicine ads where they have to warn you about the possible adverse results of the drug being pandered.

Warning: this image has been photoshopped. Do not try to look like this. This body type does not exist in nature. Attempts to make your body look like this through severe dieting and plastic surgery can result in severe physical and psychological harm.

Slap that it the bottom of photoshopped images in the same way that tobacco and alcohol are required to have the little danger warnings.

tnun

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09/01/2014 04:28:27 PM · #60

I like the part where only attractive people rule. I wonder where you learn an important thing like that.

chalice

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09/01/2014 08:10:53 PM · #61

Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Originally posted by Mike:
here problem solved, just a put a disclaimer on every image that it as been retouched.

"professionally retouched image, don't try to look like this at home."

Slap that it the bottom of photoshopped images in the same way that tobacco and alcohol are required to have the little danger warnings.

While they're at it, maybe they should warn people about floating with one's head down at the bottom of the deep end of the pool while one's breath trickles away in tiny little bubbles.

Spork99

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09/02/2014 09:24:16 PM · #62

Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by ArnaMarie:

Care of the self, is for me the most important and attractive trait in any person, man or woman. You are probably right in that being attracted to beauty is instinctual, however, what is considered beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and ultimately current prevailing ideals. I believe that contemporary ideals are not achievable to most men and women, hence only possible by faking. I have no problems with you liking to look at women and preferring them to look good. I do the same with men. However, you say you donâ��t care how they get there. Isnâ��t the most important thing that itâ��s real? Iâ��m only curious, because it is to me. Also, I believe you are only half-right in saying that â��humans are very superficial creaturesâ��. I think that most people construct presumptions about other people based on appearance. However, most adult, as they get to know the other person, root their impression in additional features. Iâ��m (almost) sure you do too :)

Attractive people will always rule the world.

Really? Look at people who run the world, for the most part, they are not and never were "attractive".

sfalice

Canon PowerShot SX60 HS

09/02/2014 09:47:24 PM · #63

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Mike:
[quote=ArnaMarie]

Attractive people will always rule the world.

Really? Look at people who run the world, for the most part, they are not and never were "attractive".

You mean like these folk?

runs/ran the world: Richard Nixon, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Angela Merkel

Doesn't/didn't run the world: June Allison, Betty Grable, Clark Gable

Spork99

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Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

09/02/2014 11:07:22 PM · #64

Originally posted by sfalice:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Mike:
[quote=ArnaMarie]

Attractive people will always rule the world.

Really? Look at people who run the world, for the most part, they are not and never were "attractive".

You mean like these folk?

runs/ran the world: Richard Nixon, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Angela Merkel

Doesn't/didn't run the world: June Allison, Betty Grable, Clark Gable

Sure, the Koch brothers, Bill Gates, Warren Buffettâ�¦the list goes on.

blindjustice

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09/02/2014 11:14:45 PM · #65

Originally posted by sfalice:

Angela Merkel was a low blow. Her name alone is as ugly as a punch below the belt. Her name needs photoshopping.

Art Roflmao

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09/02/2014 11:22:39 PM · #66

Originally posted by blindjustice:

Originally posted by sfalice:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Mike:
[quote=ArnaMarie]

Attractive people will always rule the world.

Really? Look at people who run the world, for the most part, they are not and never were "attractive".

You mean like these folk?

runs/ran the world: Richard Nixon, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Angela Merkel

Doesn't/didn't run the world: June Allison, Betty Grable, Clark Gable

Angela Merkel was a low blow. Her name alone is as ugly as a punch below the belt. Her name needs photoshopping.

"Angelica Mercury" ...sounds like a hot superhero now!

Message edited by author 2014-09-03 00:47:37.

smardaz

09/03/2014 12:38:06 AM · #67

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

"Angelica Mercury" ...sounds like a hot superhero now!

Or if scientists had created an Angelica Huston/Freddie Mercury hybrid.....Hmmmmmmm

scalvert

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09/03/2014 12:50:11 AM · #68

The image is about as realistic as the serving suggestion on a TV dinner package... and for the same reason. Neither is healthy or attainable.

tanguera

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09/03/2014 02:21:33 AM · #69

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

"Angelica Mercury" ...sounds like a hot superhero now!

Niiiiice :)

Leo

Apple iPhone Xr

09/03/2014 03:03:27 AM · #70

Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
"Angelica Mercury" ...sounds like a hot superhero now!

Niiiiice :) boobs

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09/03/2014 06:41:06 AM · #71

Originally posted by Spork99:

Really? Look at people who run the world, for the most part, they are not and never were "attractive". [/quote]

ok, money rules the world, but you can't admit attractive people don't get favored and special treatment.

blindjustice

Canon EOS-7D

09/03/2014 07:46:56 AM · #72

Here is one. The shot on the left is pshopped, model was too skinny

Message edited by author 2014-09-03 08:57:15.

Nicht

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09/03/2014 07:48:20 AM · #73

I must say, the photoshopping was a little excessive, but I'm more on Mike's side here. In photography, colours are enhanced, contrast is enhanced, etc. so that the photo looks good. A beautiful sunset in real life is beautiful, but in a photo it needs touching up. The model in the photoshoot is beautiful in real-life, but in a photo, a little touching up enhances the final product. Girls who look at magazines and get depressed weren't brought up with enough self-confidence. I know plenty women who couldn't give a damn what the model looks like - they actually think it's bad, but as a photo, they like it. Same for me - skinny isn't attractive. Well-built and healthy is attractive, and a pretty face is no. 1, but you can't capture that sort of beauty in a photo because a photo is 2D. "Photoshopping" to bring out that natural (real-life) beauty is great.

Damon

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09/03/2014 08:23:39 AM · #74

Originally posted by Nicht:

but I'm more on Mike's side here.

Real good, now you're on

Pamb's S&!t list!!!!

Message edited by author 2014-09-03 08:24:08.