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07/28/2014 03:48:50 PM · #1 |
I ran into a fellow I had taught years ago who had moved on from a newbie shooter to a solid shooter and we were chatting when he told me he was having trouble with sports shots. His pretty high end Nikon just did not have fast enough frames per second to get those essential moments in sports. I asked what settings he was using and found out he was shooting in RAW instead of the lower quality but much faster to disk JPEG format. When I told him to switch over the said "But you taught us to always shoot in RAW". Oops, I may have said that. What I should have said is always shoot in RAW, unless you have a really good reason to shoot in JPEG (and yes there are conditions where that is the rational choice).
So I thought I would add a link to Why RAW is better than JPEG as a video or as text with side by side pre and post processed images. So learn to love RAW, and understand why it is better than JPEG, but once it is understanding rather than ritual, you will know when to go back to JPEG for certain situations.
Also too many people set their camera to shoot RAW and JPEG and then never even open the JPEG. Why slow up your buffer on every shot and then store JPEGs you will never open? If you are not planning on going to press in the next hour, there is never any reason to shoot both. |
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07/28/2014 03:59:52 PM · #2 |
When having that discussion, I would ask him how fast his memory card is. It makes a huge difference in clearing the buffer.
On my 5D Mark III, with a super fast SD card, I start running into buffer issues after 7 or 8 RAW shots when using high speed continuous shooting.
But with my super-er fast CF card, I get to 15-20 RAW shots before running into buffer issues.
This fits well with the rated write speeds. The SD card is 45MB/s and the CF card is 90MB/s. I see there are faster cards out today, which I assume would increase my number of shots before buffer as well. |
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07/28/2014 04:26:12 PM · #3 |
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07/28/2014 04:30:54 PM · #4 |
Do memory cards really have an impact on how fast something is?
Right now I just have 8 and 16 cards LOL! But I don't shoot anything with speed yet..
Right now I sure can tell if I shoot in jpg or RAW especially for editing and I love how RAW can edit.. |
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07/28/2014 04:34:58 PM · #5 |
1700$ for a memory card, that blows my mind. |
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07/28/2014 04:36:58 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
If you are not planning on going to press in the next hour, there is never any reason to shoot both. |
Or if you want to enter a Minimal-editing challenge and also have a RAW version to edit later. |
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07/28/2014 04:41:37 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by jgirl57:
Do memory cards really have an impact on how fast something is?
Right now I just have 8 and 16 cards LOL! But I don't shoot anything with speed yet..
Right now I sure can tell if I shoot in jpg or RAW especially for editing and I love how RAW can edit.. |
totally...I recently found out that although I had a Class 10 SD Card...that is was only transferring at 10mb's!!! I got another Class 10 but now I'm in the fast lane with 80mb's. Night and day difference. And since I got my D7000 I've only had 32GB...
When I go to Paris in Nov I'm thinking about getting 2 64GB Class 10 transferring @ 80mb's...with my 32's as back up....
ETA: I personally only use the JPEG when I am shooting for RAW or I'm working on something like my husband's car photo's for selling it...otherwise I'm a RAW girl...but I'll surely read the articles...can always teach me something!!!! (At least I hope I'm still teachable!!!)
Message edited by author 2014-07-28 16:43:21. |
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07/28/2014 05:57:18 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
...If you are not planning on going to press in the next hour, there is never any reason to shoot both. |
LOL, unless you are shooting for a "Minimal Rules" challenge ;-)
I agree that professional sideline photogs mostly shoot JPEG, mainly because of deadlines (they are constantly swapping cards up to an editing booth). Honestly that's the only real reason I see to shoot JPEG, other than the above "special case." Perhaps someone else can provide another example, I sure can't think of one!
ETA: I have a couple of this card for use with my 6D. I regularly achieve almost the rated transfer speed of 95MB/s using a USB 3.0 card reader. that write speed gives me a RAW buffer of about 15 frames @ 4.3 frames/second. to the OP's point, if I select RAW + JPEG Fine, that is reduced to 8 shots, showing the dramatic impact of shooting both. For some high-end cameras with dual card slots, the impact might not be as severe. It's always worth researching both how the card type affects your particular camera, and how to optimally configure the camera to get the best performance.
Message edited by author 2014-07-28 18:08:39.
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07/28/2014 06:08:19 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Perhaps someone else can provide another example, I sure can't think of one! |
1. You have a camera which requires hacking the firmware to shoot RAW (like mine), and/or you don't have/can't afford hardware and software which can handle RAW files.
2. You need to take a lot of pictures and have limited storage available (also a reason to sometimes shoot at less than maximmum size).
3. You are making prints at an event. I've worked a charity golf tournament where we ran a slideshow during the awards dinner which followed the round; we simply selected the desired images in iPhoto and said "play" ...
I did mention the Minimal editing thing a couple of posts ago ... |
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07/28/2014 06:09:43 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
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I did mention the Minimal editing thing a couple of posts ago ... |
Damn, I Yanko'd you! Sorry Paul!
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07/28/2014 10:13:51 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by LanndonKane:
1700$ for a memory card, that blows my mind. |
All memory cards were expensive in the beinning days of digital I purchased a 512mb cost me about $nz 60.00 for a fujifilm one |
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07/28/2014 11:15:30 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by kiwinick:
Originally posted by LanndonKane:
1700$ for a memory card, that blows my mind. |
All memory cards were expensive in the beinning days of digital I purchased a 512mb cost me about $nz 60.00 for a fujifilm one |
true, but things are like twice the price in nz |
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07/29/2014 11:51:34 PM · #13 |
wow some of those cards are as much as a bran new camera.. very, very pricy
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